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Owl

Could black figure be Bing? I don't see anyone else who could be black figure in end credits. I'll have to go back and watch first episode credits again. I thought sweeping guy was no smoking guy aka Richard Green "no hay Banda" from club silencio, so not bing

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Posted : 20/06/2017 12:19 am
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Owl

In my mind black figures are one and the same as guy behind winkies in mulholand drive. Lynch has said TP and MH occur in the same universe

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Posted : 20/06/2017 12:22 am
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 The reason they are not credited in the episodes is because it would throw away the story of them. Said by the actor who plays the first one we've seen back in the cell.

I don't think MD and TP are the same universe, as Lynch didn't really literally said so, right? (I think he didn't at least). It was meant to be Audrey was to Hollywood, then Sherilyn Fenn didn't want to do it. So the story changed a bit, then it was decided it wasn't gonna be a series, so it got changed into a movie. It started somewhere over there, but changed. A lot of similarities, a lot of the same feelings, but not quite the same universe I believe.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 12:30 am
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It could also be the Jumping Man from the Above the convenience store scene in FWWM since the actor is cast in the Return.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 12:42 am
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Posted by: Teo Peaks

It could also be the Jumping Man from the Above the convenience store scene in FWWM since the actor is cast in the Return.

The jumping man is likely to come back. But the stature doesn't fit here I believe.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 1:02 am
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@Jayson: Bing is missing in Twin Peaks Washington State, charcoal ghost is in Buckhorn South Dakota

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Posted : 20/06/2017 1:11 am
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@dude: if 'charcoal man' is the Doppel of Major Briggs' head (which we have already seen floating in the universe in 3.03, by the way) ... where the hell is Ruth Davenport's body

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Posted : 20/06/2017 2:46 am
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Posted by: William De Bruijn

@dude: if 'charcoal man' is the Doppel of Major Briggs' head (which we have already seen floating in the universe in 3.03, by the way) ... where the hell is Ruth Davenport's body

If we wanna talk about a female body with no head / with a weird non-head, then all the arrows point to the glassbox monster.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 2:50 am
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Posted by: Dougie Jones

I don't think MD and TP are the same universe, as Lynch didn't really literally said so, right? (I think he didn't at least). It was meant to be Audrey was to Hollywood, then Sherilyn Fenn didn't want to do it. So the story changed a bit, then it was decided it wasn't gonna be a series, so it got changed into a movie. It started somewhere over there, but changed. A lot of similarities, a lot of the same feelings, but not quite the same universe I believe.

 

As I wrote elsewhere, I'm convinced that most of Lynch's movies (at the very least: Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Wild at Hearts, Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and INLAND EMPIRE, but I guess an argument could be made for The Straight Story as well) and some of his shorts, are all set in the same "universe" as TP/FWWM. There are lots of visuals, narratives, thematic and 'world building' elements that could support this theory - although, in the end, is something that every viewer is free to decide for himself/herself.

 

As for the Black Figure, I'm inclined to believe that it's the same (or is connected to) the similar looking guy from MD.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 3:57 am
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Posted by: Dougie Jones

 The reason they are not credited in the episodes is because it would throw away the story of them. Said by the actor who plays the first one we've seen back in the cell.

I don't think MD and TP are the same universe, as Lynch didn't really literally said so, right? (I think he didn't at least). It was meant to be Audrey was to Hollywood, then Sherilyn Fenn didn't want to do it. So the story changed a bit, then it was decided it wasn't gonna be a series, so it got changed into a movie. It started somewhere over there, but changed. A lot of similarities, a lot of the same feelings, but not quite the same universe I believe.

I concur. Several postings have popped up drawing a parallel between the new Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive. As far as I've seen, nobody has every confirmed the two are in the same universe. We should however see where the universe of Twin Peaks and Lost Highway exist on the same stretch of reality as Lynch himself said so (and in true nature was mum as to how).

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Posted : 20/06/2017 6:21 am
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He definitely does have a reddish beanie on so I think it may be him as well. You can tell it's a reddish beanie even with all that black tar all over him.  I think the book has a backstory on the Log Lady and her husband but I haven't gotten to that part in the book yet.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 12:19 pm
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At first I thought it might be a form of BOB and making him unrecognizable with all that black tar on him would serve as a remedy for the fact that Frank Silva (the actor who played BOB) has passed and you can't really tell.  But I am thinking more and more that it probably is the lumberjack from FWWM. I hate waiting a week to find out what happens next.  Someone said that the next episode won't air for another two weeks.  Does anyone know if that's true? That would totally suck if that's the case.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 12:24 pm
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I posted this in response to something in another thread but I think it's more relevant here.  Someone said they thought the charred man was the Log Lady's husband and I said that

I certainly think so.  Mr Lanterman died in a fire (or so we are told) and the charred figure is likely a manifestation of his spirit.  The character played by Jurgen Prochnow in FWWM is generally assumed to be him, too.  Why is he not burned?  The scene is a flashback (related by Jeffries in his fleeting appearance at the Philadelphia HQ) describing the figures present in the lodge when he was there.  Mr Lanterman brought back "an opening to a gateway" from Glastonbury Grove, probably from when he came out of the lodge.  After he died, his spirit inhabited the Log, passing messages from the other side via Margaret.  All the messages from the log were either intended to warn (Laura) or help (Cooper) and came from someone or something intimately familiar with the lodge and the spirits within.  It's possible that, despite its rather grotesque appearance, the charred figure might turn out to be a benevolent spirit.

I also think that it might not be visible to all of the characters.  Just because we see it, doesn't mean that characters do too.  Lieutenant Knox turns around in the corridor when she senses something coming, but quickly turns back without missing a beat.  Not the sort of reaction you would expect from a military officer who has just seen a weird burnt man wandering around in a morgue.  Significantly, he appears at the time when Major Briggs' body is being identified, the same major Briggs who visited at least one of the lodges and who also supposedly died in a fire.

As an aside, I used to wonder why Lynch went to the trouble of casting a major actor like Jurgen Prochnow for a wordless cameo in FWWM.  Then I remembered that he played Duke Leto in Dune.  Lynch never forgets his actors.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 12:48 pm
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Owl

Philip Jefferies, perhaps?! Think about how he entered the FBI building, in The Missing Pieces...

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Posted : 20/06/2017 8:32 pm
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Posted by: Oyster Bells

Does anyone know what the guy is listed as in the credits?  I couldn't find him, could he be unlisted?

I mentioned this on another thread, but the actor who plays him was interviewed and he said he has to remain uncredited because the character's name would reveal too much.

Who do you think is his/her name then? Phillip Jeffries? Major Briggs? Annie? The "Mother"? Mr. Strawberry?  Curiouser and curiouser.

 

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Posted : 20/06/2017 9:39 pm
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