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Posted by: samstanley
Posted by: Oyster Bells

I also never found the blackened ghost guy.

There was an interview posted on Twitter with the actor who plays that role.  He said he has to be unaccredited because the name of the character gives away too much.

I was getting a suspicion that he is the evolution of BOB and that just makes that idea grow even more.

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Posted : 19/06/2017 6:34 pm
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Posted by: samstanley
Posted by: Oyster Bells

I also never found the blackened ghost guy.

There was an interview posted on Twitter with the actor who plays that role.  He said he has to be unaccredited because the name of the character gives away too much.

I was getting a suspicion that he is the evolution of BOB and that just makes that idea grow even more.

I think Bob only stays with 1 person at a time.  As the case when he was with Leland before, he was only seen by Laura when Leland was there, or in dreams.  He doesn't wander the world on his own.

So I think, this blackened guy could only be Bob if DoppelDale was walking down that corridor when Lieutenant Cox was on the phone.

"Dougie, who do you prefer now, me or that Jade?"
"Jade."
"No, no, Dougie! Jade. Or. Me?"
"Me."
"Okay, once again. Jade. Or. Janey-E?"
"E."

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Posted : 19/06/2017 10:50 pm
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Posted by: Oyster Bells
Posted by: samstanley
Posted by: Oyster Bells

I also never found the blackened ghost guy.

There was an interview posted on Twitter with the actor who plays that role.  He said he has to be unaccredited because the name of the character gives away too much.

Oh wow it's true then he's Log Ladies Man??

I certainly think so.  Mr Lanterman died in a fire (or so we are told) and the charred figure is likely a manifestation of his spirit.  The character played by Jurgen Prochnow in FWWM is generally assumed to be him, too.  Why is he not burned?  The scene is a flashback (related by Jeffries in his fleeting appearance at the Philadelphia HQ) describing the figures present in the lodge when he was there.  Mr Lanterman brought back "an opening to a gateway" from Glastonbury Grove, probably from when he came out of the lodge.  After he died, his spirit inhabited the Log, passing messages from the other side via Margaret.  All the messages from the log were either intended to warn (Laura) or help (Cooper) and came from someone or something intimately familiar with the lodge and the spirits within.  It's possible that, despite its rather grotesque appearance, the charred figure might turn out to be a benevolent spirit.

I also think that it might not be visible to all of the characters.  Just because we see it, doesn't mean that characters do too.  Lieutenant Knox turns around in the corridor when she senses something coming, but quickly turns back without missing a beat.  Not the sort of reaction you would expect from a military officer who has just seen a weird burnt man wandering around in a morgue.  Significantly, he appears at the time when Major Briggs' body is being identified, the same major Briggs who visited at least one of the lodges and who also supposedly died in a fire.

As an aside, I used to wonder why Lynch went to the trouble of casting a major actor like Jurgen Prochnow for a wordless cameo in FWWM.  Then I remembered that he played Duke Leto in Dune.  Lynch never forgets his actors.

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Posted : 20/06/2017 12:36 pm
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Posted by: snapsnappo
Posted by: Oyster Bells
Posted by: samstanley
Posted by: Oyster Bells

I also never found the blackened ghost guy.

There was an interview posted on Twitter with the actor who plays that role.  He said he has to be unaccredited because the name of the character gives away too much.

Oh wow it's true then he's Log Ladies Man??

I certainly think so.  Mr Lanterman died in a fire (or so we are told) and the charred figure is likely a manifestation of his spirit.  The character played by Jurgen Prochnow in FWWM is generally assumed to be him, too.  Why is he not burned?  The scene is a flashback (related by Jeffries in his fleeting appearance at the Philadelphia HQ) describing the figures present in the lodge when he was there.  Mr Lanterman brought back "an opening to a gateway" from Glastonbury Grove, probably from when he came out of the lodge.  After he died, his spirit inhabited the Log, passing messages from the other side via Margaret.  All the messages from the log were either intended to warn (Laura) or help (Cooper) and came from someone or something intimately familiar with the lodge and the spirits within.  It's possible that, despite its rather grotesque appearance, the charred figure might turn out to be a benevolent spirit.

I also think that it might not be visible to all of the characters.  Just because we see it, doesn't mean that characters do too.  Lieutenant Knox turns around in the corridor when she senses something coming, but quickly turns back without missing a beat.  Not the sort of reaction you would expect from a military officer who has just seen a weird burnt man wandering around in a morgue.  Significantly, he appears at the time when Major Briggs' body is being identified, the same major Briggs who visited at least one of the lodges and who also supposedly died in a fire.

As an aside, I used to wonder why Lynch went to the trouble of casting a major actor like Jurgen Prochnow for a wordless cameo in FWWM.  Then I remembered that he played Duke Leto in Dune.  Lynch never forgets his actors.

I agree, so far char guy doesn't have the body language of malevolent spirit.  He just looks creepy 'cause he's all black and evaporated in jail.  But even though chubby, I don't think he's Briggs from the clothes.

I wonder how they could determine Briggs died in the fire.  Did they find his charred body?  (There can't be two bodies unless there's doppelgänger or "creations" like Dougie). Was the body missing and displaced in the future?  Voice of alleged Phillip Jeffries said DoppelDale had met with Briggs in a way that seemed he meant recently.

"Dougie, who do you prefer now, me or that Jade?"
"Jade."
"No, no, Dougie! Jade. Or. Me?"
"Me."
"Okay, once again. Jade. Or. Janey-E?"
"E."

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Posted : 21/06/2017 5:36 am
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