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(@eric-from-sweden)
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But do we really know exactly which pages that were torn out? Maybe the pages torn out in FWWM wasn't the ones about good Cooper. Maybe some other pages with some other kind of information is missing. Or maybe there are pages missing from the ones found in Harolds house. Maybe Mrs Tremond and her grandson opened the letter adressed to Donna, and took out some page and gave them to Mike, who then planted it at the Police Station? That's perhaps a litte bit far fetched. But if it's indeed the pages about Good Coop, and the pages were torn out before she had the dream about Annie, then there's a serious plot hole right there.

https://youtu.be/NpYEJx7PkWE

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Posted : 15/06/2017 10:22 am
(@haxan_l_morningstar)
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That would be a plot hole only if - for some reason that utterly eludes me - you hold Twin Peaks on some kind of real world logic. However, especially by this point, TP is a universe where cosmic/psychic entities have a huge inflluence and where concepts like time and space are mostly subverted or deconstructed - I wouldn't care that much about this kind of stuff, is what I'm saying : -)

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Posted : 15/06/2017 10:59 am Gina Marie Lacour liked
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Just think about how rewarding it will be if/when Coop snaps out of it after a few episodes of the Dougie shenanigans. It would have been really stupid and a result of "lazy writing" if Coop exited the black lodge and was the same ol' pie-loving coffee-drinking Coop after spending 25 years in some weird extra dimensional purgatory. I like the Dougie antics, but I too would like to see a change (it seems MIKE is even sick of the Dougie shit as we see him trying to wake coop up).  Also, I am leaning on the bathroom notes being the missing pages of the diary as well. Whatever it is, it definitely involves Annie.  Someone took a still of the bathroom notes and blew it up.  You can see Annie's name written on it.

Seven days is too long to wait to see what happens next! 

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Posted : 15/06/2017 12:16 pm
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Here's the still:

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Posted : 15/06/2017 12:16 pm mysticskye and Häxan L. MorningStar liked
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Since I saw FWWM for the very first time in 1992, I knew that the Annie ask was important about Cooper. At the time it was the explanation for Cooper's fate in the Black Lodge. But now, there is a plot hole with that :

Laura gave her diary to Harold BEFORE having the dream about Annie. If she wrote something in her diary, it was in her regular diary not the secret one. Then who placed the pages in the door ? Mike, it makes not sense. Maybe Windom Earle when he came by night in the office, more probably Bad Coop before leaving TP ?

 

I apologize for my "french school" english.

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Posted : 15/06/2017 12:23 pm
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Posted by: Dougie Jones
Posted by: wow_bob_wow
Posted by: Mariano Rubio

The thing is in Laura's Diary the only pages that BOB rips off are the ones were she mentions him (at least that's what they hint). Also, in the series they do find the missing pages of Laura's Diary, so it would be a very weak link if they 'somehow' missed it. Annie wasn't even introduced at this point in the show where the pages were found. 

I guess they will be Laura's diary missing pages, but I hope they come out with a good explanation.

When you read it, there is no mention of the events in FWWM, (I think it came prior to the movie IRL), either way that would be  would be why there is no mention of Annie, but perhaps to your point. . .

Ho would Laura have known who Cooper was (by name). let alone Annie when it was written?

there have been plenty of  messages, warnings, clues etc., given by unique methods and messengers.  Laura's Mom, the Bellman, signaling the Air Force, even a log. . . 

So trying to figure what and how may not be the best course. . . 

Regardless, I'm near certain it will support "Hawk if I'm ever lost, I hope you'll be the one they send to find me"

 

Yeah, well. The thing is by the time Laura has the dream with Annie, the pages have already been torn. So, there's that.

True. and it never reveals if she did write it, or in what diary, or if all the pages where found . . . 

either way, i doubt it's concrete or literal 

. . . we're not gonna talk about Judy . .

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Posted : 15/06/2017 12:36 pm mysticskye liked
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Yes. It must be from Laura's regular diary due to the timeline of where the secret diary ends up (if it's from Laura's diary at all). Maybe the bad Cooper put them in there shortly after escaping from the Black Lodge at Glastonbury Grove. But the first time we see Bobby Briggs he was in a big hurry to get to that exact bathroom, and he has a lot to hide regarding Laura. He murdered a dude and she watched. They dealt drugs together. He's a deputy now. He has to cover up his criminal past (and present? Isn't it weird that drugs are obviously being smuggled into Twin Peaks from Canada and Bobby Briggs is in charge of monitoring drug smugglers from Canada and he never manages to catch them. Hmm...). If there's anything in her diary about any of that, he has to make the pages disappear and fast.

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Posted : 15/06/2017 1:25 pm Pier Federico Miozzo liked
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We don't know if that was the first time Laura got Annie's message. Laura didn't react at all when she saw her in her bed. Maybe it was a dream she had dreamed some times before. Who knows. I know it's really pointless to speculate. I just have to wait a few more days.

https://youtu.be/NpYEJx7PkWE

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Posted : 15/06/2017 2:18 pm
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Posted by: Eric from Sweden

We don't know if that was the first time Laura got Annie's message. Laura didn't react at all when she saw her in her bed. Maybe it was a dream she had dreamed some times before. Who knows. I know it's really pointless to speculate. I just have to wait a few more days.

Speculating is the reason to exist for these forums.

The pages that were torn were from her secret diary, not the normal one. So if she wrote it in her normal diary, the pages were with the police the whole time. 

My guess is that it will have to do with the prison spirit from Part 1-2 (or maybe even Mrs. Tremond/Chalfont!). Something similar to the page Laura wrote about meeting Cooper in a dream the night before she died. Something that the only way could manifest in the story is through a lodge spirit and not a possible thing to have happened humanly.

But yeah, we'll see. BTW, we might not learn anything new in this plotline in the next episode because of suspense, so get ready to keep waiting more thana  few days 😛 .

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Posted : 15/06/2017 6:15 pm
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by the way, any guesses on whatever happened to Annie?

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Posted : 15/06/2017 11:41 pm
(@bob-e)
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Posted by: Myn0k

Just thinking out loud here, but one possibility is that bobby briggs hid the note years ago. He was Laura's boyfriend. And he works in the station now. He may have forgotten he ever did it. 

I'm not saying that I think this is the most likely theory, but it is interesting.  If Bobby was aware at all that Laura believed she was being raped and tormented by a man named "Bob", he would have known that the police would have assumed that "Bob" was him.  Even if he thought she was just nuts and having drugged out hallucinations, it still would have looked really bad for him.

Then again, I don't know when he would have had the opportunity to tear the pages out.

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Posted : 16/06/2017 11:29 am Myn0k liked
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Posted by: Caio Rocha

by the way, any guesses on whatever happened to Annie?

After the influence of Bob in the Black Lodge, she moved out of Washington and got into porn work ( "Boogie Nights" film ).

Fire Walk With Me

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Posted : 17/06/2017 4:46 am Pier Federico Miozzo liked
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Posted by: Eric from Sweden

We don't know if that was the first time Laura got Annie's message. Laura didn't react at all when she saw her in her bed. Maybe it was a dream she had dreamed some times before. Who knows. I know it's really pointless to speculate. I just have to wait a few more days.

She gets alarmed when she looks back & Annie is gone, and then opens her hand finding the ring in it ( still dreaming ).

Fire Walk With Me

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Posted : 17/06/2017 4:49 am
(@artamisbgone)
Lodger

Rather than start a new thread I thought I'd jump in here, having just re watched this episode, to mention something a bit tangential to this scene other than focusing on the pages themselves.

After several viewings you start to notice the little things so here goes . . . 

While Hawk was clawing away at the stall door, Chad enters and heckles him for a moment. Not certain the purpose of this really, that is, the inclusion of Chad here. Since the scene would have played fine with just Hawk doing his thing.

But . . . the very next scene we have Sheriff Truman in the main room at the station with Chad and others. With no scene in between the two scenes this stands out. If Chad was going to go tell on Hawk to Truman, well, he certainly isn't doing it when the scene changes. This again may hint at an alternate timeline or alternate universe perhaps. Might seem like a stretch, but the transition is very odd IMO.

Imagine yourself writing a scene where one person is annoyed and going to tell someone something, then the next scene you have that person in the room and nothing between them is going on. Just strange.

One could argue that Chad has already mentioned it to Truman and gotten blown off in just that quick a moment. But I dunno . . .  

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Posted : 07/12/2018 11:09 am
(@carnifex)
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I noticed that transition also,    and recall thinking at the time that's exactly what probably happened,   Chad whined to the sheriff and got told to shut up.      He even looks a little pouty,   but then he usually does.

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Posted : 08/12/2018 8:43 am Chris Flackett liked
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