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Major Briggs's non aging

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(@myn0k)
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This episode infers that garland was in the white (or black) lodge for the past 25 years and didn't age. 

Cooper has aged though. The fact that lynch and frost bring this non aging fact up must be relevant to the series given that Coop has clearly aged. 

Any thoughts?

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 4:56 pm
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hmm there's been some discussion about Cooper being in a 'waiting room' type lodge rather then the actual black lodge itself, so I wonder if that would have something to do with it. And if that were true, the waiting room would be sort of like a middleman between the lodges and earth so maybe it still possesses some of earths qualities?

 

I could be way off, just a thought off the top of my head

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 5:09 pm
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Hastings was investigating alternate dimensionS. S. Plural. I'm guessing wherever Briggs went is different from where our man Coop has been stuck. A whole new set of rules governing wherever he went.

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 6:07 pm
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There was also an earlier thread about the ages of the Giant in 1989 and of ??????? in the White Lodge in 2014. And Laura has also aged between 1989 and 2014. So maybe Briggs (Project BlueBook) is the only one who masters timetravel without the need for aging any further?

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 6:23 pm
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As trite as this may sound, all the actors have aged, but, and sadly we lost Don Davis in the intervening years, so that does introduce some natural constraints to the narrative.

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 6:31 pm
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Maybe Briggs didn't age because he went there of his own free will.  Cooper was, to all intents and purposes, abducted.  He may have gone to get Annie, but didn't return when he wanted to.

Could be total bollocks but it's the best I have.

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 6:48 pm
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The Major told Bill and Ruth that he was "hibernating", maybe it's because of that. Although we know it's a 100% not aged because the character died and takes and shots of his face will have to be in his late 40s, so the body should, too. I think story-wise, his body hasn't aged because no one occupied his place on our world, therefore there was no body to age.

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 7:01 pm
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But Annie says Cooper is in the lodge.

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 7:06 pm
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Major Brigg's experiences with disappearing and reappearing via the "lodge" or the zone or what have you have been very different from everyone else's so far.  He was a very positive spiritual character and I think that may make a big difference in where he goes and how he comes back. Or maybe he travels like Phillips Jeffries but on White Lodge levels.

I was rewatching the last episode of season 2 recently and I had forgotten that Wyndham Earle sends him a message using Sarah Palmer telling her he's in the lodge with Cooper.  That's the last we saw of him in the original series!  Out of all the original characters (except for the Giant) he seemed to be the most equipped to go in after Cooper and try to rescue him.  I'm very excited to find out more about what happened in between now and then.  It's possible he realized that because of the 25 years needed to elapse to open the gate, and because he was being pursued by DoppleCoop, he ended up in a "holding pattern/hibernation" until he was able to get the right messages to the right people.  He may have also known he was going to be killed or sacrificed himself.  I'm not really clear on how Hastings described his head disappearing.  Did he send his HEAD to Cooper to give him that message in the early episodes?  Was he actually killed?  Hastings said it was beautiful and terrifying at the same time, so I'm kinda leaning towards self sacrifice.

 

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 8:23 pm
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Time doesn't seem to work the same way in all of these extra-dimensional places that Cooper and Briggs have visited, so it would make sense that each had aged differently. Briggs seems also to have been 'stuck' between places, so perhaps time doesn't even exist in between.

The woodsmen and the woman with stitched eyes appear to experience time the same way; flickering backwards and forwards in the direction they need it to. The lodge creatures express their relationship with time by speaking and moving backwards, and with the statement "is it future, or is it past?"

DoppelCoop also seems to experience time differently sometimes, speaking very slowly.

The summary on the Reddit Thread, "I read through The Zone Blog links so you don't have to" seems to corroborate.

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 8:27 pm
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I think if it's one of the Lodges, then it must be White Lodge.  Because Briggs already said he went there in seas2, and because Hastings said Briggs floating up was so beautiful.

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 8:41 pm
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Posted by: Oyster Bells

I think if it's one of the Lodges, then it must be White Lodge.  Because Briggs already said he went there in seas2, and because Hastings said Briggs floating up was so beautiful.

I don't recall Briggs saying he was at any lodge in season 2, only our assumption that he was.

 
Posted : 10/07/2017 9:32 pm
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Posted by: Dougie Jones
Posted by: Oyster Bells

I think if it's one of the Lodges, then it must be White Lodge.  Because Briggs already said he went there in seas2, and because Hastings said Briggs floating up was so beautiful.

I don't recall Briggs saying he was at any lodge in season 2, only our assumption that he was.

True, but the place he describes is pretty idyllic if I remember rightly.  There's still a lot to learn about Major Brigg's jaunts. 

Also, I mean, if he went to the black lodge or the waiting room he would have described the red curtains or been chased by screaming Bobby's or something.

 
Posted : 11/07/2017 12:54 am
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In the first link on Hasting's site, there is a discussion about how light has a higher velocity in higher densities. E.g., in the 4th density light moves 17x faster than in the 3rd (ours). Combine that idea with Einstein's theory of Relativity and . . . Briggs wouldn't age much in, what in our density is 25 years, but in the dimension he was in would only be, say, not even 1 1/2 (for argument's sake). 

http://www.grantchronicles.com/astro15.htm

 
Posted : 11/07/2017 1:18 am
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The red room may be 3rd density, so everyone in there ages accordingly. 

 
Posted : 11/07/2017 1:27 am
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