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(@anthony_despain)
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I know this is inappropriate. And I will delete this entire topic. I have to get this off my chest.

David, how could you do this to our hero, good Cooper?

 

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 1:40 pm
(@cyndeewillow)
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Because he's our hero?

"There's fear in letting go."

I feel ya, it wasn't a cherry pie with whipped cream ending.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 1:42 pm
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I am STILL less upset about what happened to Cooper than what has happened to ALL the rest of the cast.

I think Cooper was created to be and will be forever more a tragic hero, an Odysseus, a gunslinger, and whatever analogies or correlations we have come up with.

If he wasn't, he wouldn't have been persecuted as a drug smuggler after the murder was solved, he wouldn't have been stalked by the likes of Windom Earle, wouldn't have been part of Carolines death, wouldn't have found new love only to have her dragged into the lodge, season 2 wouldn't have left off as it did, we wouldn't have learned that Cooper has been sitting around in the waiting room for 25 years, he wouldn't have been "reincarnated" as Dougie, etc etc etc.  I don't think he's ever really had a moment's rest and I believe he was never meant to be a knight who saves the princess and rides off into the sunset to live happily ever after.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 1:47 pm
(@anthony_despain)
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I've been physically upset all week! Lol

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 1:51 pm
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Posted by: Anthony Despain

I've been physically upset all week! Lol

You and me both, brutha. 

And a lot of others.

Upset by different things and different reasons, but physically distressed for 5 straight days now.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 2:01 pm
(@devaneyfan)
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Unlike the original run, there are ways to interpret this ending in a positive way for Cooper.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 2:43 pm
(@badalamenti-fan)
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Posted by: Anthony Despain

I know this is inappropriate. And I will delete this entire topic. I have to get this off my chest.

David, how could you do this to our hero, good Cooper?

 

I suspect the answer, for Lynch and Frost, in so many words, is:

"We no longer live in time in which good heroes can save us. What's more, the stories we tell ourselves (for comfort, distraction etc.) that still involve good heroes saving the day have a tendency to make us forget that we--all of us-- actually need saving-- from ourselves, no less. And post haste."

That's my read on The Return , FWIW.  

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 2:53 pm
(@teo-peaks)
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What did he do to good Cooper? I don't get it

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 2:57 pm
(@badalamenti-fan)
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He showed us that either a) 'Dale Cooper' was, in fact, Richard all along... the character from the original series was a figment of "Richard's" imagination in an alternate reality. or 'Dale, etc. was all a dream...' ; b) Dale Cooper's entrance (with "Diane") into the Odessa universe entailed his reabsorption, along with the qualities of Mr. C, into a new subject/character, Richard; c) Dale never left the waiting room, but imagined everything after the finale of Season 2.... ; or, d) Dale died when he first entered the waiting room, fragmenting his essence into the doppelganger and, later, the tulpas... 

Either way, Dale's not eating pie and drinking coffee.  And at least three of his lovers have been killed or have otherwise 'disappeared...' (Catherine, Annie, "Diane/Linda") ... 

Maybe you were just making a joke. If so, my bad for missing it!

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 3:04 pm
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Posted by: Teo Peaks

What did he do to good Cooper? I don't get it

Nobody does.....

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 3:04 pm
(@henrysteiger)
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I feel like he beat and robbed me but I cannot un-love David Lynch. My version of "The Return" may end with Part 16, but the finish I detest does not completely destroy the journey.

I've fucking loved the journey. I just wanted a real "return." A few precious scenes with Cooper interacting with lost friends from Twin Peaks and the FBI.. Being overwhelmed with what he's missed out on but pleasantly surprised at certain developments, like Bobby Briggs' growth into a good man.

Being deprived of this, I cannot forgive David Lynch. But I cannot hate him either.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 3:24 pm
(@teo-peaks)
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Well, do we need more than Mr. Jackpots? Obviously not

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 3:44 pm
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