Because these days anything goes, I was thinking if the eps 17/18 and the Green Glove had something to do with the traditional Punch and Judy puppet show. Although it's origins are in Italian theatre, it's nowadays seen as a British thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_and_Judy
I'm the first to say there are likely not many parallels to be found here, but it might offer some small insight into why the Freddie character is from the UK. Perhaps the brits here can comment 🙂
"Finally, the show will often end with the Devil arriving for Mr. Punch (and possibly to threaten his audience as well). Punch—in his final gleefully triumphant moment—will win his fight with the Devil, bring the show to a rousing conclusion, and earn a round of applause."
Because these days anything goes, I was thinking if the eps 17/18 and the Green Glove had something to do with the traditional Punch and Judy puppet show. Although it's origins are in Italian theatre, it's nowadays seen as a British thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_and_Judy
I'm the first to say there are likely not many parallels to be found here, but it might offer some small insight into why the Freddie character is from the UK. Perhaps the brits here can comment 🙂
"Finally, the show will often end with the Devil arriving for Mr. Punch (and possibly to threaten his audience as well). Punch—in his final gleefully triumphant moment—will win his fight with the Devil, bring the show to a rousing conclusion, and earn a round of applause."
This is a great idea-- and one that likewise occurred to me after much ruminating about "Judy." Your hypothesis would suggest, IMO, that The Return is more akin to Lynch's absurdist Wizard of Oz gestures in Wild at Heart than, say, the earnestness of the original Twin Peaks. Fascinating!
FWIW, the glimpse of the "Bosomy Woman" (in fact, a man in drag, actor Malachy Sreenan) we saw just before Mr. C entered Jeffries' motel room somehow summoned to mind Punch and Judy dolls, what with their more-or-less identical (androgynous) underlying facial features (garish, grotesque, etc.) but dressed up in gender-signifying clothing...
I may be imputing this network of associations onto The Return, but the "bosomy woman" also somehow evoked Jack Smith's Normal Love...
"Finally, the show will often end with the Devil arriving for Mr. Punch (and possibly to threaten his audience as well). Punch—in his final gleefully triumphant moment—will win his fight with the Devil, bring the show to a rousing conclusion, and earn a round of applause."
and here's your trio:
Thanks, I was maybe thinking the BOB showdown scene was Lynch's way of saying that Twin Peaks is not necessarily more sophisticated than puppets hitting each other with sticks... then followed with part 18.
But those pictures give food for thought, I'd forgotten already about the "Bosomy Woman" as we didn't get to see her again.
Interesting. I grew up quite heavily with Punch and Judy and can't say that I can spot any similarities. Interesting though.
Lol, love the title of you topic Tero!
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