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 ella
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Did it really changed the chain of events? First - she disapeared, we got it. But second - Cooper intended to take her home - White Lodge so anyway she wouldn't have been around in Twin Peaks. We saw Pete Martell who finally gone fishing but Laura's family and friends would have lost her anyway. There was no body wrapped in plastic but what about Twin Peaks people? Is she officialy missing person?

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 5:44 am
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The story of Laura is still a mystery in my mind.  Was this plan in her best interests?  Is she simply a living martyr or a sacrificial savior in every timeline or parallel universe?  Does she exist in a reality?  Was she saved?  Did she understand the plan? I'm not sure at all.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 7:44 am
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I think Coop wasn't able to change the past. When he traveled back in time, he ended up creating another timeline where Laura is alive, but the people and events in TP are different. 

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 7:52 am
 ella
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Yes, I agree. My first thougt actually - she is damned no matter what reality/timeline we're talking about. This dead guy in Carrie's living room...  but does it mean that good will always lose to evil? Cause she is created by Fireman so what the heck?

I was just wondering how her disapearance, not death, would influence Twin Peaks community but it looks like you may be right: she survived but only in this alternate reality.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 8:30 am
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Perhaps she died another way (she was certainly on a downward spiral before that fateful night) or she went missing.  I think the latter is more fitting.  According to TSHOTP she was still murdered by Leland.

Maybe the secret history events are supposed to reflect the old Twin Peaks prior to Cooper's intervention, but there are continuity errors that some have suggested are meant to be understood as the retcon from interfering with past events.

I read an interesting theory that she was being taken home as something like a time bomb to destroy the spirit inhabiting Sarah, not home as in the White Lodge.  I dunno, I think he meant literal home, which is what he did.  If the Fireman wanted her in the White Lodge (assuming that's where he is), it could have probably been accomplished.  She had a different purpose that was as yet unfulfilled before she could return to that home, though.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 8:36 am
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Yes I've been wondering the same thing. We don't really learn much about the main reality after Cooper goes back in time to save Laura. I'm becoming more convinced that Cooper knew beforehand that Laura (and Judy) would end up in the alternative reality though, after Cooper saved her - and that the plan was always that Cooper would travel there himself to find Laura and get to Judy.

If that is the case, then altering the timeline in the main reality should be something positive (or at least not something that would make things worse in any way). But Laura would probably have gone missing rather than being murdered, so that must have had an impact on the people she knew.

The Fireman created Laura for some kind of purpose - for her to fulfil that purpose they needed to 'un - murder' her in some way by altering the timeline. This isn't the first example of time being manipulated in Twin Peaks i.e. end of season 2 when Cooper and Earle are in the Black Lodge.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 9:09 am
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I'm not sure he was taking her to the White Lodge. Given he takes her home, as Carrie, it is my belief he intended to take her to her actual home in Twin Peaks in episode 17.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 11:08 am
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Posted by: RocksEm

I'm not sure he was taking her to the White Lodge. Given he takes her home, as Carrie, it is my belief he intended to take her to her actual home in Twin Peaks in episode 17.

But this is the part I don't understand.  If he was taking her home so that she wouldn't die surely eventually she would die because Leland/Bob is still living at home and he may have saved her that night but that just means thatDale as delayed her death because surely in the future Leland/Bob will eventually kill her whilst he is still around.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 12:06 pm
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Seems every option was meant to end bad for her.

 

Odessa town and she shoots a guy in the head with an assault rifle. In trouble with the police, ending up probably spending her whole life in prison.

Doesn't die on that night in the train, moves on through her life, eventually getting killed by Bob or possessed by him.

Doesn't die on that night, dies from overdose somewhere on the road.

Cooper takes her home, Sarah now inhabited by a very evil entity devours her, or crushes her head. Dead, again.

And Coop takes her home, reality collapses as soon as she understands who she was.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 1:14 pm
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Posted by: Andrew Glasson
Posted by: RocksEm

I'm not sure he was taking her to the White Lodge. Given he takes her home, as Carrie, it is my belief he intended to take her to her actual home in Twin Peaks in episode 17.

But this is the part I don't understand.  If he was taking her home so that she wouldn't die surely eventually she would die because Leland/Bob is still living at home and he may have saved her that night but that just means thatDale as delayed her death because surely in the future Leland/Bob will eventually kill her whilst he is still around.

I'm not sure of the purpose but it would not be to just go back to the same situation. This is Super Coop who just spent 25 years in the Black Lodge now. He could beat BOB. Or Sarah could be retconned now and this is to confront Judy/Sarah.

Or, he may never have intended to take her anywhere, just said that to young Laura. This may have been to provoke a reaction from Judy and bring her out of the woodwork.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 1:23 pm
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I would have liked to see Laura confront Sarah in the reality we watched in TP.  I still believe that Sarah was not giving herself up to Judy willingly.  I think she was fighting it.  She warned those young kids in the store when she couldn't finish her purchase.  She tried to tell them that the men were coming.  Why would Judy say that? 

If Laura had confronted Sarah as Judy, I think that Sarah's mother instincts would be overwhelmed at having her daughter back.  She and Laura could have defeated Judy together.  It would have been a great ending to a years old tragedy.  Too bad Lynch and Frost didn't consult me on that one.  : )

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 5:13 pm
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