I thought about that to, particularly as how fast as his request for a new Tupla was
There are also a few other things that complicate that. . .like Mike for one? Did he know, or could he tell? Then there's Jefferies who also, despite being in a tea kettle, should of been able to tell
HOWEVER!
I'm fairly certain The Tulpa(or real Coop)!that was sent to Janey-E, isn't there to just retire and drive Sunny Jim to soccer practice.
He's assurdlv part of a bigger plan, and gives Cole etc. a weapon in this world
Understand something....
Cooper is responsible for getting JaneyE out of the financial predicament she and Sonny Jim were in(due to Dougies gambling)
As soon as JaneyE has the money, David Lynch was EXTREMELY careful not to make JaneyE a greedy character. Her behavior may be a bit frantic due to the circumstances she'd been in, but that's all. She does the right thing with the money. She doesn't go on a shopping spree. She can be trusted. She behaves like a stereotype for sure... but just a stereotype of a Woman/Mother in a peculiar situation. I wonder if any of you who watched her ever wondered if JaneyE was going to be a problem or take advantage of her new found wealth or hurt or berate Dougie/Coop unecessarily. She never does. Again.. she can be trusted. Lynch/Frost made damn sure that we would NEVER question JaneyE's loyalty several episodes before Cooper goes back to them in #18.
Think about it.... If there was even the slightest doubt about JaneyE then the theory of Cooper ending up with them could NEVER stand up to scrutiny.
It was a fantastic ending for Cooper(who can be called back into action if needed) A great bait and switch.
Bait and Switch happens all the time in television.
I was one of the millions of people who thought Cooper was making a new seed to send a replica of himself to JaneyE. It seemed to make sense because Cooper is such a profoundly good person. But I believe Cooper is 51% intelligent 49%good person.
Meaning that
1. it is more important to have 100%Cooper with JaneyE/Sonny Jim.
2. it is more important to have Richard/Coop continuing on into the infinite.
If given a choice, I would do the same.
Why wish for a season 4 when there is SO much to extract/examine from this third season hmmm?
100%Cooper w JaneyE > 100%Cooper in the infinite loop
Translation.. Real Coop w JaneyE is mathematically greater than Real Coop stuck in the infinite fight against evil.
Jacques
Possibly the tulpa dale is the one sent to Las Vegas and the real dale has tried to save Laura and failed and the fireman is now telling tulpa dale to rescue Richard and Linda ..... If he's anything like the real dale knowing they were in trouble would be enough to spring him into action
he says he understands which makes more sense than it being the real dale cooper who seemed not to understand when he read the letter addressed to Richard .
plus not having the badge all but makes this seem more true
so I think that we will get season 4 and it will mostly revolve around this new cooper trying to find Richard and Linda and possibly Laura. So I do feel this fireman scene takes place after every other scene and the plot of season 4 was handed to us at the beginning of season 3.
just a thought
My favourite theory revolves around the possibility that 100% Cooper is with Carrie Page and we saw a linear depiction of the en of ep. 18.
Right after 100% Cooper asks "What year it is?" it shuts down that timeline completely and suddenly He and Carrie(doppleganger Laura) are in black lodge. Great setup for a season 4. Leland doppelganger insists on Coop to find Laura(meaning Lauras doppelganger) in order to complete her return.
I think...
Sorry I disagree.
When Coop wakes up "finally " from being Dougie he asks Mike to make "another one ". To me this means that Mike and Coop made Dougie to go out into the world as a lure for Mr C . After waking up real coop sees that Janey and sonny need a husband and father so sends a reformed Dougie back. Janey knows that real coop is not her Dougie just before leaves because she says "whoever you are, thank you "
Yeah but....
That's not the 'real' Diane. They real Diane was last seen standing in the basement of the Great Northern, along side Director Cole.
Yeah but....
That's not the 'real' Diane. They real Diane was last seen standing in the basement of the Great Northern, along side Director Cole.
It really is a great theory but I think the real Dale Cooper would be bored to death living the life of a married insurance salesmen in Las Vegas.
My arguments are mostly spiritual,
Coop has been trapped in the Black Lodge for 25 years. If 18 months in Afghanistan can make reintegration into society a tough prospect, I don't see how Coop can resume a family life, especially in Lancelot Court. He dreamed of land outside of Twin Peaks - a housing development in the desert is most certainly not that. I don't see real Coop abandoning his war.
It takes some real speculation and logical gymnastics to not put real Diane in the loop of Linda/Richard. Lynchian rules makes it possible, but she too has been imprisoned and cast out of time and place. She too is a soldier and has no other choice but to chase that dragon.
My final point: Why, if Richard is really the tulpa (as a side note I suspect the golden orbs may not be in infinite supply - Mike was asked if he still had the one they recovered from either Diane or from Dougie - possibly a fixed number of these came from Mother?? Not sure here.) does that make the ending more palatable? Why would we be relieved that a tulpa is stuck in an infinite loop? Does not a tulpa have fears and wants and would suffer the insanity of this fate? If a tulpa has all of these things, what difference are they to "real" people? Could we consider ourselves tulpas of our parents' making? If they were less dimensional, if they were true automatons, like Data or Bender, then sure, use em like a shovel, but if they don't realize they are different from anyone else, then it's a Cooper by any other name that suffers that fate of eternal frustration.
I don't believe there is a logical 'happy' outcome to be found.
Yeah but....
That's not the 'real' Diane. They real Diane was last seen standing in the basement of the Great Northern, along side Director Cole.
The one who magically emerged from Naido and a black cracking void circle?
We're walking on thin ice with these labels of real/unreal.
Sorry I disagree.
When Coop wakes up "finally " from being Dougie he asks Mike to make "another one ". To me this means that Mike and Coop made Dougie to go out into the world as a lure for Mr C . After waking up real coop sees that Janey and sonny need a husband and father so sends a reformed Dougie back. Janey knows that real coop is not her Dougie just before leaves because she says "whoever you are, thank you "
I beg to differ. When dougie goes to red room in episode 3, mike greets him and say "someone manufactured you for a purpose but i think now that's been fulfilled."
Why would he lie to Dougie, who is just about to become non-existant?
Sorry I disagree.
When Coop wakes up "finally " from being Dougie he asks Mike to make "another one ". To me this means that Mike and Coop made Dougie to go out into the world as a lure for Mr C . After waking up real coop sees that Janey and sonny need a husband and father so sends a reformed Dougie back. Janey knows that real coop is not her Dougie just before leaves because she says "whoever you are, thank you "
I beg to differ. When dougie goes to red room in episode 3, mike greets him and say "someone manufactured you for a purpose but i think now that's been fulfilled."
Why would he lie to Dougie, who is just about to become non-existant?
But he wasn't lying. He was manufactured.
But he wasn't lying. He was manufactured.
Exactly. The keywords are "someone" and "i think". Mike definitely didn't participate in this manufacture and can only have an idea about its purpose.
This is the theory I am choosing to believe because it makes me happiest. It's my dream so it can end how I want it to.
I am excited to find this theory!! The main thing holding me back is that the tulpa Dougie/Coop in the red room speaks like the original non-Cooper Dougie... hmm.
But this theory does explain Cooper shooting a guy in the foot and endangering Judy's diner dropping live ammo in boiling oil. He was not our known Dale Cooper. (Though our known Dale did say in the Sheriff's Office that some things would change.)
A thing about the transition to Richard and Linda: We very suddenly jumped to Coop/Diane out on that desert highway. Can we be sure that's the Cooper/Diane we saw in Glastonbury Grove after Cooper "saved" Laura and exited the Red Room?
Another thought: It coulda been a Dougie Dougie who went back Vegas and our beloved Cooper turned into this Richard (not ANY Cooper) in the middle of the night, with Diane also turning into Linda (not ANY Diane). Perhaps they both martyred themselves into NONEXISTENCE, in the words of the arm's doppelgänger.
I do want to look into the pin though. Diane's bracelets switch at times in the show, from the yellow one being outer to the red one being outer--and in the end, her hair, her head's outer covering, swaps from blond to red. Who knows. Who knows.
In any case, we got a number of happy endings, including the Jones family, with whoever returned to them.
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