Based on this theory...
So how important is the pin on Coop? it has to be a symbol! Where do you think was the moment that the real Coop went in the place of Dougie and the tulpa(Richard) went in the place of real Coop?
Was it after the Sheriff station?
was it when she entered the door in the great northern?
was it after the 430?
Diane realized that he is not Coop when she was in the motel room and tha he was Richard..
She was the real Diane not a tulpa, but why she wrote to Richard from Linda? or she was Linda?
One thing that doesn't sit well with me is the accent that the Tulpa has when he is brought to life by Mike. He sounds exactly like Dougie did before he was summoned back to the lodge. He acts like Dougie. The Cooper we see in episode 18 sounds like a mix between GoodCoop and Mr. C. The more I watch the new Tulpa and the more I think about all the Coops, it would seem silly that they would have this Tulpa creation scene include a Tulpa with all the characteristics of Dougie, to then throw that out the window in the next scenes. It would mean a complete disregard of logic and consistency just for the sake of throwing a cool curve-ball - something which Lynch avoids. He is always consistent, yet mysterious. When we make sense of something, it makes sense. After thinking on it further, this doesn't seem to make sense. I hope some of you can win be back though!
I didn't feel that Cooper's tulpa acted like Dougie, to me he seemed to react how Cooper would have done in that moment, thrilled to be brought into existence. I believe after leaving the lodge he carried on with Cooper's intention and memories, Cooper knew this and returned to Janey-E & Sonny Jim.
Perhaps when the Fireman says to Cooper "It is in our house now" he is referring to Laura Palmer's house, who he brought into existence. And "it" is Judy, inhabiting inside of Sarah Palmer who was the young girl who swallowed the frog moth ("Is this the story of the little girl who lived down the lane?")
The Fireman warning is indeed clearly important...But does Cooper really remember this warning ? I'm not sure, because i think the Fireman warning is taking place after the last scene of the last episode. But I also think it is possible, because it is possible it is also taking place before the last scene of the last episode. What was the warning ?
"It is in our house now"...And indeed it is : Tremond, Chalfond..."it" lives in the house. But I insist on the "now". The spirits are in the house after Dale changed past, that is to say at Part 18, not 1.
"It all cannot be said aloud ." We remember the whispering of the grandson in FWWM, as if he didn't want Bob to hear him : Spirits listen to everything.
So...When does the scene with the fireman from the first episode happens ? Is this scene from Part 1 happening just after the end of the last episode ? [is it future or past ?] At this moment, Coop is "far away" : he is not with the giant...and is possibly with Carry Page. But obviously, the fireman warning is shown to us before the last episode.
"Remember Richard and Linda"
When Coop is reading the letter from Diane, he can't remember why she is calling him "Richard" and is signing "Linda".
The "8" / the infinity symbol from Jeffries also indicates a möbius strip.
Thanks to Gordon Cole in the beginning of Part 17, we learn that Dale Cooper told him he was trying to kill two birds with one stone...25 years ago. Did he knew the fireman words at this moment ? If it is a möbius strip, yes. But the question of the identity of Dale appears, who is the Dale talking to the fireman ? And who is the Dale called Richard by Diane ? And who is the Dale who says it's really him when he meets Diane back ?
Well...this can explain the words from Jeffries to Cooper :in FWWM "Who do you think this is there ?" It's not about a tulpa or a doppelganger, it is about a man who live again and again the same story.
Based on this theory...
So how important is the pin on Coop? it has to be a symbol! Where do you think was the moment that the real Coop went in the place of Dougie and the tulpa(Richard) went in the place of real Coop?
Was it after the Sheriff station?
was it when she entered the door in the great northern?
was it after the 430?
Diane realized that he is not Coop when she was in the motel room and tha he was Richard..
She was the real Diane not a tulpa, but why she wrote to Richard from Linda? or she was Linda?
I think the moment that the Cooper switch happened was when he left the lodge in episode 18 and met Diane.
The crucial point here is when she asks "Is it you, is it really you?" He replies yes when I think this is actually the tulpa/Richard coop. She only realises it's not the real coop after the sex scene when they change dimension/timeline. Before they cross timelines there is an emphasis on "once we cross it could all be different"
I think Diane after seeing a doppelganger of herself in the new timeline. Possibly loses touch with who she is and this is why she refers to herself, as Linda. Either Diane has become Linda or thinks she's Linda. Arghhh this is frying my mind hahaha
If I understand your theory correctly you are saying that the real Cooper let the real Diane drive off into some alternate reality with his tulpa. That could be, but it doesn't seem like something Coop would do.
Sounds possible scenario. In my opinion it is clear that the "Coop" in the last scenes is not real Cooper or Mr. C but somewhere in the middle.
i'm pretty sure is not the real Cooper also at "Judy's". The good old Dale never would have shoot in a foot of a man.
is not the bad one, probably as you says "something in the middle"
I like this theory and thought of something very similar. The real Coop went back to Janey E and Sonny Jim.
If I understand your theory correctly you are saying that the real Cooper let the real Diane drive off into some alternate reality with his tulpa. That could be, but it doesn't seem like something Coop would do.
I don't think it was the real Diane, I believe that Naido was a vessel which allowed for another Diane tulpa to be created through.
Wow Bob Wow.
I don't believe we will be getting another season.
Your theory is brilliant.
When Norma turns down that franchise offer(from Greg from "Eight is Enough" no less), its a metaphor for David Lynch turning down the possibility of having another season of TP. Norma decides not to run in an infinite circle and chooses love. Just like Cooper chooses love over the infinite cycle of fighting evil. So there is DEFINITELY an ending in ep. 18
I did like the idea that Sarah/Judy and Laura/Carrie are headed for a knock down drag out in an imaginary season 4. But I also hope to never see that. The battle of good and evil is a fine ending to rest on.
I don't think the real Coop would be selfish enough to go to Las Vegas and not try to save Laura. In the scene with Janey E & Sonny Jim he let slip that He wouldn't be coming back but that Dougie would be. When in 17 did he change his mind? Why would he risk saving Laura with a Tulpa?
I think that Coop is different in the Carrie Paige world because of the side effects of going over and because it is 'different' there. Something he warned Diane about just before they went over .
I think Cooper had the seed created because he wanted the Jones family to be together. He did it as a service to Janey E & Sonny Jim.
A very great theorie, it makes sence but i have a question: I can imagine that Diane during the sex realize it's not Dale. I can imagine that she writes him a letter to letting him know that she don't regonize him anymore but where she get's the name Richard from? If she knew the name she already known that it was not dale. The letter had to start with: Dear Dale, i don't recognize you anymore? It's not good for my sleep hahaha
A lot of good ideas that we obviously can’t rule out, but I have some problems with it. The main thing is, I’m skeptical a tulpa could take on a mission assigned to Dale. There’s a lot we don’t know about tulpas and how closely they can resemble humans and what their capabilities are. “Richard” does of course seem a little “off” compared to Coop. But I think he has too much overall competence and knowledge to not be basically Cooper – the version of himself that Cooper becomes in this alternate reality.
Here’s where I’m coming from on that: If a tulpa is just about as capable as the person it was made from, why wouldn’t the Lodge spirits just create an entire army of Dale Coopers to go out and conquer evil everywhere? I personally think that when it comes to carrying out this “plan” (which I’m admittedly very fuzzy on), only the real Cooper would do.
From a wishful-thinking standpoint, I would’ve loved to believe this about a week ago. Like a lot of people, I think, I found this so emotionally immersive that I was genuinely upset about Coop’s predicament for a few days afterward. So yeah, I would’ve liked to think Real Cooper was safe in Las Vegas with Janey-E.
But eventually you start to put things in perspective. (And this is aside from the part where you realize it was just a TV show.) The finale seemingly ends with Coop in a bad place – and there are some good theories suggesting that scene wasn’t the chronological end at all… but let’s assume for now that it was. It’s still just a cutoff at the place where Lynch & Co. decided to cut it off. Hypothetically, Coop (or some version of him) is still out there. He didn’t die. He might still have a way to make this right. That story is ongoing (whether it actually continues or not). We’re still in medias res.
In case there ever is more Twin Peaks, I’m glad that door was left open to a place where we can imagine… almost anything (even if lots of it is horrible). Sending Coop off to a happy retirement in suburban Vegas is a closed door. It’s an end. I suppose Gordon Cole could still grab Cooper off the sidelines of Sunny Jim’s soccer game and draft him back into the FBI, but that’s not really the Twin Peaks way. There’s more forward momentum in a mystery.
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