So where is the real Diane?  

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(@merriejayne)
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The hair and seed are needed to create the Tulpa, it and the nature of the tulpa was clear, whoever you get the hair from the Tulpa will look like, at least to me. It could be deduced that the Tulsa knows and behaves however the creator wants them to. The example of Piper and her disguise was solely to illustrate what Lynch has done in the past. All I was saying was that the leap to Naido wasn't too far fetched. My enter point ultimately was that Diane doesn't have to be dead for a tulpa to be created in her image, whomever created it having control. There''s no reason to scoff at people. No one knows what Lynch has in mind, truly. Nothing is fact unless it is out of the horse's mouth. I didn't realize this wasn't a place of idea sharing. Forgive me in even speaking against the all knowing. 

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Posted : 28/08/2017 9:15 pm
(@dobbshead)
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What if....

: -) ALL = At Long Last

 

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Posted : 28/08/2017 9:16 pm
(@murat_erol_ozkan)
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The way I had it, Diane was fluctuating within the same body, between herself that remembered what Mr. C did to her, and then not being herself, but being the manufactured 'f u' lady under the control of Mr. C.  She had been on and off torn between genuinely working with the blue rose task force(like when MacLay let her smoke, then when she said 'lets rock'), then the next time you saw her she was her same old angry self.  Seems like that 'ALL' text message forced the issue before she could pull herself out........

Also, notice that scene that switches from Dougie in the hospital plugged into all kinds of machines, then to Cole with the stained black teeth and acting zombified like Dougie staring at all those machines.....seems as if he still has not recovered from that night with the 'turnip lady'........then the scene switches back to Dougie in the hospital plugged in again, I think meant to show the similarity between the two.  Cole was more Dougie-like, while Albert was more Mr. C like.

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Posted : 29/08/2017 2:00 am
(@myn0k)
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Something I've not seen anyone post yet is that the real Diane went missing / died 22 years ago - remember Coop visited her four years after he went missing. 

So picture a Diane 22 years younger, and without her bright blonde wig. 

Yes, she could be Naido. But who knows!

The Diane Tulpa had over two decades to twist and change her appearance. 

Also, if that she says is true, her memories of the real Diane were cloned because she remembers the rape and clearly gets upset about it. 

And then there's the added pressure of knowing your not the real Diane. What kind of a psychological impact does that have on you? Most blue rose cases may lead to violence based purely on the fact that Tulpas have an innate sense of existential crises - they know they're not real. They become naturally at odds with their original. 

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Posted : 29/08/2017 2:47 am
(@teo-peaks)
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This Diane was like Lula Fortune with a job.

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Posted : 29/08/2017 8:23 am
(@nikolaj_nielsen)
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I just rewatched EP1. In the scene with Mr C and Beulla, the same pitched down music as the scene where Diane is approaching the FBI hotel room to shoot them, is playing right before he enters the house. This is a clear connection to Mr C and possibly Buella.

Could Diane be Buella? She kinda has the same haircut also.

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Posted : 31/08/2017 12:06 pm
(@teo-peaks)
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Posted by: Nikolaj Nielsen

I just rewatched EP1. In the scene with Mr C and Beulla, the same pitched down music as the scene where Diane is approaching the FBI hotel room to shoot them, is playing right before he enters the house. This is a clear connection to Mr C and possibly Buella.

Could Diane be Buella? She kinda has the same haircut also.

 

Might be the case indeed, they do look similar.

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Posted : 31/08/2017 12:09 pm
(@devaneyfan)
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Posted by: Myn0k

Something I've not seen anyone post yet is that the real Diane went missing / died 22 years ago - remember Coop visited her four years after he went missing. 

So picture a Diane 22 years younger, and without her bright blonde wig. 

Yes, she could be Naido. But who knows!

The Diane Tulpa had over two decades to twist and change her appearance. 

Also, if that she says is true, her memories of the real Diane were cloned because she remembers the rape and clearly gets upset about it. 

And then there's the added pressure of knowing your not the real Diane. What kind of a psychological impact does that have on you? Most blue rose cases may lead to violence based purely on the fact that Tulpas have an innate sense of existential crises - they know they're not real. They become naturally at odds with their original. 

I have to say that Laura Dern has provided the most powerful emotional performance in The Return.  So many of the other characters seem flat and haven't drawn me in or made me care, but that is not the case with Diane and/or her tulpa. 

I do hope we see Diane again because I think Dern can bring a greater sense of passion, loss and pain to the finale.  For that reason, I'm sticking with the theory that there were two Dianes in Buckhorn (original and tulpa). 

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Posted : 31/08/2017 12:29 pm
(@arcadesonfire)
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Whether it be two bodies or two Diane's in one body, I'm sticking with my idea that the switching bracelets mean something. We'll definitely see her again.

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Posted : 31/08/2017 4:37 pm
(@arcadesonfire)
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When Tulpa Diane disappeared, did anyone else think it looked like she jumped into Albert??

I really don't want for one (or all) of the Blue Rose folks to be "bad," but I have fear for Albert. Also, given my new fascination with Diane's bracelets and how Cole was looking at her hand while she testified, I noticed that after all the shooting, before he sat back, Albert adjusted his right shirt cuff. Of course, that was his shooting hand, so maybe he was just readjusting... or maybe he's hiding bracelets!!! Crimeny, I/we could dissect every last little motion in these 18 hours.

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Posted : 31/08/2017 4:41 pm
(@mikeh72)
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I'm liking more and more that the real Diane is Naido with all the ideas posted here.  Plus, the mirror-imaged dragons on Diane's sweater, her Asian style haircut, and from what I remember, Diane's apartment was decorated with some Asian motif.  Now I'm toying with the idea if the real Diane is Naido, then maybe Ruby (the crawling, screaming girl) is her daughter with Evil Coop being the father.

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Posted : 31/08/2017 7:42 pm
(@dopplearb)
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Posted by: Jesse Newkirk

When Tulpa Diane disappeared, did anyone else think it looked like she jumped into Albert??

I really don't want for one (or all) of the Blue Rose folks to be "bad," but I have fear for Albert. Also, given my new fascination with Diane's bracelets and how Cole was looking at her hand while she testified, I noticed that after all the shooting, before he sat back, Albert adjusted his right shirt cuff. Of course, that was his shooting hand, so maybe he was just readjusting... or maybe he's hiding bracelets!!! Crimeny, I/we could dissect every last little motion in these 18 hours.

Could this somehow tie in with how the real Dougies arm got all tingly right before he disappeared into the red room? What was the meaning of that arm tingle anyways? 

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Posted : 03/09/2017 7:22 pm
(@dopplearb)
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In the Naido is Diane theory I have another clue that I haven't seen mentioned. Right after Naido falls off the space station thingy in episode 3 Major Briggs head floats  by and says "blue rose".

I think he is giving Cooper a clue about Naido's identity, not necessarily that SHE is the blue rose but that there is foul play involving her identity.

I also agree that Naido seems to be recognizing Cooper in that scene as a familiar.

I'm in the camp which believes that somehow Naido is Diane

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Posted : 03/09/2017 7:29 pm
(@gvztt)
Lodger

turns out Naido was really Diane... confirmed and closed. Twin Peaks would like to thank each one of you for the priceless contribution  🙂

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Posted : 20/09/2017 1:16 pm
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