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(@dopplearb)
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I think Steven is/was a tulpa.

Of course there's a tulpa witchhunt going strong right now and we're unsure who is or has a doppelgänger, a tulpa or what is even reality so maybe it's not all that important, but maybe....

In the very first Bang Bang/Road house scene (is the Roadhouse itself a tulpa for the Bang Bang or vice versa?) We see Shelly with Renee and a couple other women. Shelly is complaining about the guy her daughter is with and Renee (pretty sure it's Renee) says to the effect of "who Steven? C'mon everybody loves Steven" there's NO WAY that anyone who has ever been near Steven (aside from Becky and Gersten I suppose) loves  that guy. He's 100% despicable. So, is/was there another version of him at some point that was adored? Of course Red's drugs could have done the damage in their own right but in his final scene the two of them are looking for what seems to be a vortex in the sky to open up, and there's the issue of Gerstens key. Are these clues, are they important?

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Posted : 01/09/2017 1:15 am
(@naogilles)
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I doubt these will be addressed in 110 minutes. My guess is it's an abandoned storyline they still wanted to shoot because it gave more insight into the life of tp inhabitants.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 3:27 am
(@buttercup)
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I think Steven was a vehicle to show the impact of drugs as already stated, and to be the no-good hubby of Becky.  The Becky character established the relationship of Shelly & Bobby. Steven is gone, but we should see Becky again.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 7:40 am
(@mj_gilbert)
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I haven't seen Steven at any of the tulpa meetings, but at this point, we have to meet at the convention center, so I don't get to see everybody.

I AM the FBI.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 10:04 am
(@mj_gilbert)
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I'm a tulpa, you're a tulpa, he's a tulpa, she's a tulpa, wouldn't you like to be a tulpa too...

I AM the FBI.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 10:05 am
(@arcadesonfire)
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert

I'm a tulpa, you're a tulpa, he's a tulpa, she's a tulpa, wouldn't you like to be a tulpa too...

Twin Peaks is actually a holy book sent from on high to reveal humanity's true fate: We are all tulpas.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 10:41 am
(@matthew_gladney)
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert

I haven't seen Steven at any of the tulpa meetings, but at this point, we have to meet at the convention center, so I don't get to see everybody.

Tulpa meetings? Is that something in the show that I've missed?

 

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Posted : 01/09/2017 12:33 pm
(@myn0k)
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Origin of Steven - great name for a band. 

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Posted : 01/09/2017 12:38 pm
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Posted by: bizzarb-blog

I think Steven is/was a tulpa.

Of course there's a tulpa witchhunt going strong right now and we're unsure who is or has a doppelgänger, a tulpa or what is even reality so maybe it's not all that important, but maybe....

In the very first Bang Bang/Road house scene (is the Roadhouse itself a tulpa for the Bang Bang or vice versa?) We see Shelly with Renee and a couple other women. Shelly is complaining about the guy her daughter is with and Renee (pretty sure it's Renee) says to the effect of "who Steven? C'mon everybody loves Steven" there's NO WAY that anyone who has ever been near Steven (aside from Becky and Gersten I suppose) loves  that guy. He's 100% despicable. So, is/was there another version of him at some point that was adored? Of course Red's drugs could have done the damage in their own right but in his final scene the two of them are looking for what seems to be a vortex in the sky to open up, and there's the issue of Gerstens key. Are these clues, are they important?

This is a bold idea and I applaud you on questioning even yourself based on the ongoing tulpa witch hunt.  If he is a tulpa though, he must have dropped out of tulpa school around 8th grade.  I have a hard time seeing such a loser as tulpa material.  I see him as the modern Bobby character (remember history has a habit of repeating itself).  His public image is of a good, clean boy, however, under the surface, he is a complete loser.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 12:59 pm
(@moulinie13)
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Come on  guys..if you read enough of these threads, nobody is real and everybody's a damn tulpa.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 1:38 pm
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(@dopplearb)
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I guess I was reading too deep into Renee's line "Everybody loves Steven". Also I was assuming it might have more significance Being that it is the first Roadhouse conversation that's sets the precedent for all the following mystery Roadhouse conversations. **

The job interviewer saw through Steven immediately, telling him he was the worst applicant ever. So he's not exactly maintaining a good clean image. I agree that he's the modern Bobby (though without a chance for rehabilitation). Even as a bad boy Bobby still had an allure which Steven lacks entirely. Steven did get quite a lot of screen time.

Here's a crackpot theory:

**Mr. C is using Red to use Steven to keep Twin Peaks strung the fuck out on whatever mystery drug to keep them all under his control.

Is Red the Tremond Grandson all grown up?

I'm only asking this as a joke, the only similarity is their proclivity for magic tricks and the aging would about sync up....

 

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Posted : 01/09/2017 2:01 pm
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Posted by: Joshua Moulinie

Come on  guys..if you read enough of these threads, nobody is real and everybody's a damn tulpa.

Says the guy who's obviously a tulpa.  

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Posted : 01/09/2017 2:37 pm
(@moulinie13)
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I'm actually a Doppelganger, not a Tulpa.
We're different..lumping us together is racist.

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Posted : 01/09/2017 2:44 pm
(@ric_bissell)
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Posted by: bizzarb-blog

I guess I was reading too deep into Renee's line "Everybody loves Steven". Also I was assuming it might have more significance Being that it is the first Roadhouse conversation that's sets the precedent for all the following mystery Roadhouse conversations. **

The job interviewer saw through Steven immediately, telling him he was the worst applicant ever.

Hi bizzarb,

By the way (in case you don't already know) the job interviewer was Mike, Bobby's ride-or-die buddy, from the original Twin Peaks.  =:-O

😉

- /< /\ /> -

That's strange - even for Cooper

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Posted : 01/09/2017 3:15 pm
(@murat_erol_ozkan)
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Origin of Steven is Twin Peaks High School, where he became a 'high school graduate' and learned to fill out forms, the 'shining hope' of Twin Peaks middle class future, in these 'economically challenged times' as the well dressed man Walter put it.  Nevertheless, despite all these advantages, problems arose with the poverty and lack of jobs, the declining standards of education and achievement, the drugs and 'foul-mouthed' Becky situation.....tulpa came out of these problems.....from 'guy everyone likes' to sleazy drug addict...Steven is basically the equivalent of where someone like Bobby, the cool rebel and 'quarterback' from 1989, would be directed towards in today's conditions....

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Posted : 01/09/2017 3:18 pm
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