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I just rewatched the episode and the beggining of the Roadhouse scene feels too real. Not to mention, Eddie Vedder's song - which is clearly related to Audrey - begins before she comes in. I think she was really there.

As some of you might know from my vehemently opposing to the coma theory, I'm having a hard time thinking that's the case, even with the subtle nod Janey-E gave us ("People can be in a coma for years!") this week. 

We have had confirmation she's been raped by Mr. C ("goodbye, my son") and we've had confirmation Diane was also raped by him. Diane turned out to be a tulpa and when she acknowledged that, she drew her gun to kill the FBI folks. A couple of episodes ago, Audrey brought us the information that sometimes, she doesn't feel like she is herself before jumping on Charlie's throat last week.

So, now I'm thinking Audrey's psychotic break (hallucinating about Audrey's Dance, flash to that white-out scene) is actually Lynch & Frost giving us some insight to a tulpa's point of view on that moment of insight when the tulpa realizes they are not the real person after whom they were modeled.

And the real Audrey, in the white-out mirror scene, is trapped somewhere else. Maybe a different dimension? 

 

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 2:11 pm
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There have definitely been clues that she's a tulpa. It would make sense that Mr. C would make a tulpa of his other rape victim. I hope the real Audrey and the real Diane are alive somewhere and will be brought back to "normal reality"

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 2:36 pm
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(The real) Audrey's a dreamer, too... Just like (the real) Diane...

 

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 2:45 pm
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There's been talk the real Diane might be Naido (after she said "I'm in the sheriff station")! Which means Audrey could also have been "reshaped" to look differently... But maybe that's too complicated. I'm sure we'll get a glimpse of it, at least, in the finale. Even if we're left wondering...

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 2:46 pm
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Posted by: Bela Moschkovich

I just rewatched the episode and the beggining of the Roadhouse scene feels too real. Not to mention, Eddie Vedder's song - which is clearly related to Audrey - begins before she comes in. I think she was really there.

As some of you might know from my vehemently opposing to the coma theory, I'm having a hard time thinking that's the case, even with the subtle nod Janey-E gave us ("People can be in a coma for years!") this week. 

We have had confirmation she's been raped by Mr. C ("goodbye, my son") and we've had confirmation Diane was also raped by him. Diane turned out to be a tulpa and when she acknowledged that, she drew her gun to kill the FBI folks. A couple of episodes ago, Audrey brought us the information that sometimes, she doesn't feel like she is herself before jumping on Charlie's throat last week.

So, now I'm thinking Audrey's psychotic break (hallucinating about Audrey's Dance, flash to that white-out scene) is actually Lynch & Frost giving us some insight to a tulpa's point of view on that moment of insight when the tulpa realizes they are not the real person after whom they were modeled.

And the real Audrey, in the white-out mirror scene, is trapped somewhere else. Maybe a different dimension? 

 

This is actually a really good theory. Cheers!

 

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 2:51 pm
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Posted by: Bela Moschkovich

Diane turned out to be a tulpa and when she acknowledged that, she drew her gun to kill the FBI folks.

Am I the only one who thought she was drawing the gun to kill herself?

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 2:51 pm
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Posted by: David Standifer
Posted by: Bela Moschkovich

Diane turned out to be a tulpa and when she acknowledged that, she drew her gun to kill the FBI folks.

Am I the only one who thought she was drawing the gun to kill herself?

Eww...I don't know about that one.  I think she had that inherent drive of evil to kill ALL of them after Mr.C sent his text and knew if she didn't there would be severe consequences.

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 3:55 pm
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And the real Audrey, in the white-out mirror scene, is trapped somewhere else. Maybe a different dimension? 

 

That's exactly what i took from the scene. Perhaps if Mr C raped her, he also trapped her somewhere at the same time. Not sure if the Audrey we've been seeing is a Tulpa or just results from her trapped imagination.

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 3:55 pm
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I think the clue is hidden in Diane's story. She said that after Mr. C raped her, he took her to a gas station, which we now know is the Dutchman. IMO The Dutchman appears to be an unending, multilevel of hallways, and doors. These doors, like portals, lead to different physical and metaphysical locations. It is possible that after raping Diane, as well as Audrey, Mr. C used the Dutchman to lock them away in a metaphysical location. The scenes from the Roadhouse may be her mind trying to process and rationalize what she is experiencing. 

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 4:23 pm
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Coincidence that Richard gets destroyed by electricity and when we see Audrey in the mirror electricity crackles? Maybe him dying is what was needed to wake her up from wherever she is.

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 4:46 pm
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Posted by: Bela Moschkovich

I just rewatched the episode and the beggining of the Roadhouse scene feels too real. Not to mention, Eddie Vedder's song - which is clearly related to Audrey - begins before she comes in. I think she was really there.

As some of you might know from my vehemently opposing to the coma theory, I'm having a hard time thinking that's the case, even with the subtle nod Janey-E gave us ("People can be in a coma for years!") this week. 

We have had confirmation she's been raped by Mr. C ("goodbye, my son") and we've had confirmation Diane was also raped by him. Diane turned out to be a tulpa and when she acknowledged that, she drew her gun to kill the FBI folks. A couple of episodes ago, Audrey brought us the information that sometimes, she doesn't feel like she is herself before jumping on Charlie's throat last week.

So, now I'm thinking Audrey's psychotic break (hallucinating about Audrey's Dance, flash to that white-out scene) is actually Lynch & Frost giving us some insight to a tulpa's point of view on that moment of insight when the tulpa realizes they are not the real person after whom they were modeled.

And the real Audrey, in the white-out mirror scene, is trapped somewhere else. Maybe a different dimension? 

 

I remember Dougie, when he realizes he was a tulpa said, he felt "weird". It's a good theory I like it. 

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 4:48 pm
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Posted by: David Standifer
Posted by: Bela Moschkovich

Diane turned out to be a tulpa and when she acknowledged that, she drew her gun to kill the FBI folks.

Am I the only one who thought she was drawing the gun to kill herself?

Yes I thought so, when I thought that she was redeeming herself at the bar when I thought she sent bad coordinates initially to Mr. C. I was wrong. Why did she send the coordinates again?

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 4:59 pm
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I so got the opposite feeling about the Roadhouse scene... the whole thing was as surreal as it gets with Audrey dancing. (and watch the crowd behind her as well)  I'm still thinking that these Roadhouse scenes are "tulpas"  ... the collective dreamthoughts of many characters.

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 5:37 pm
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I don't know, I don't think it's going to make full coherent sense in the end. But my big issue with the Roadhouse scenes all being dreams (in James's head, in Audrey's, in whomever's) is that James and ol' Green Glove got taken to jail after the ruckus last week. That tells me that real stuff happens at the Roadhouse. Unless... I guess it's possible James is dead and everything there is his post-death dream (like, he always wanted for Shelly to think he was cool??).

I really can't figure out Audrey. But I wonder if when people saw her do that dance to the weird music back in 1990, they thought it was just as weird. Last night, it really stood out cuz everyone in the room was noticing it, whereas in the originals, she just did it on her own.

Oh, another odd thing about last night's Roadhouse scene: There was a fight about a man's wife, mirroring the prior week's scene.

Who knows.

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 5:47 pm
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In any case, I hope that next week, we see Eddie Veddar and Trent Reznor cover James Hurley's "Just You"!!

 
Posted : 28/08/2017 5:48 pm
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