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(@moonchild)
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ok so....if the convenience store is "another dimension" it obviously somewhere else...but where?

Gordon sees the stair in Buckhorn

But the entrance is the room Laura enters in her dream in FWWWM

The main room is the room ABOVE the store

But the room and courtyard Jeffries is in...I've never seen it before....

Is the convenience store a portal to the black lodge or IS IT THE BLACK LODGE?

if so...can we say that jeffries is stuck in the black lodge or is he talking from somewhere else? 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 12:49 am
(@silentbobni)
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The Jeffries part of your questions is what's confusing me a lot and I'm leaning towards what we saw as the black lodge and he's an evil spirit there now.

He's seemingly protected by woodsmen and a backward/forward talking key holder which makes me think he's not on the side of good.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 12:53 am
(@matthew_gladney)
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Posted by: Sammy Weir

The Jeffries part of your questions is what's confusing me a lot and I'm leaning towards what we saw as the black lodge and he's an evil spirit there now.

He's seemingly protected by woodsmen and a backward/forward talking key holder which makes me think he's not on the side of good.

This is what I'm thinking, too.

 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 12:56 am
(@caoimhin)
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Posted by: Sammy Weir

The Jeffries part of your questions is what's confusing me a lot and I'm leaning towards what we saw as the black lodge and he's an evil spirit there now.

He's seemingly protected by woodsmen and a backward/forward talking key holder which makes me think he's not on the side of good.

And he told Mr C in part 2 that he wants Bob back with him.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 12:58 am
(@karen_paynter)
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There won't be answers coming on such questions, David Lynch doesn't give answers.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:07 am
(@matthew_gladney)
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Posted by: Karen

There won't be answers coming on such questions, David Lynch doesn't give answers.

The show does have another writer.

 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:11 am
(@karen_paynter)
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Posted by: Matthew Gladney
Posted by: Karen

There won't be answers coming on such questions, David Lynch doesn't give answers.

The show does have another writer.

 

They co-wrote the script ( though also David Lynch does not strictly just follow a script, he comes up with things in the moment ), which means they agreed on what went into it.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:15 am
(@moonchild)
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but when and WHYYYYY did he become evil? does anyone have an opinion about this???

 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:22 am
(@caoimhin)
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Posted by: MoonChild

but when and WHYYYYY did he become evil? does anyone have an opinion about this???

 

Perhaps he's hypnotized by the powers of Lodge entities and developed similar aspirations to those of Windom Earle's. Doubt we'll get an explanation (if the evil/BL theories are even true). 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:26 am
(@shrrrrrrrrrrk)
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Posted by: MoonChild

but when and WHYYYYY did he become evil? does anyone have an opinion about this???

 

Perhaps there is no Jeffries at all. I initially thought that MIKE was posing at Jeffries; then, after the transmogrification of Jeffries, tonight, in the motel room, I thought that the Giant was pulling the strings.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:29 am
(@karen_paynter)
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Posted by: shrrrrrrrrrrk
Posted by: MoonChild

but when and WHYYYYY did he become evil? does anyone have an opinion about this???

 

Perhaps there is no Jeffries at all. I initially thought that MIKE was posing at Jeffries; then, after the transmogrification of Jeffries, tonight, in the motel room, I thought that the Giant was pulling the strings.

(credits ) The actor is credited as "voice of Jeffries"

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Posted : 21/08/2017 2:38 am
(@ruskinowl)
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I think that the convenience store only appears when it needs to. It's more of a mask than anything 'solid'.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 2:44 am
(@morten-j)
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The courtyard and the  motelroom is at The Blue Diamond Motel from "Fire Walk With Me" where Leland saw Laura and Ronette together with Teresa Banks.

Pretty sure about that! 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 3:17 am
(@william_de_bruijn)
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Could Jeffries be stuck in the Black Lodge like GoodCoop was in the White Lodge? Doesn't necessarily mean he IS 'evil'. He may be put there, under a bell, like Cooper was in the mauve/Purple Room?

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Posted : 21/08/2017 3:41 am
(@naogilles)
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Or he's simply a prisoner, and philosophical about it. Or he's unstuck in time, and he doesn't really care because he's in the lodge but he's also in the FBI headquarters at the same time, and in Buenos Aires, and everywhere he's ever been. (Even Honolulu if he wants.)

I'm not sure he's IN the bell, or if he IS the bell itself, or if the bell is just a way for him to communicate.

Still, I'm going to call it, hopefully I'll be the first: maybe those bells are stupas. (Not tulpas-- stupas.) I'll have a look if it's mentioned elsewhere.

Anecdote: when I first watched the original series, I started with the European pilot (yeah, yeah, I know). When Mike mentioned "above, what do you call that... a convenience store?", I thought that because of the hesitation, he was talking metaphorically, i.e. "above the human world/realm/reality". In fact, I keep thinking it may have been a metaphor in Lynch's head, and then he later thought it'd be funny to make it an actual convenience store.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 5:48 am
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