The "Farmer" and Billy  

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(@matthew_gladney)
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So, back in Part 7, we had Deputy Andy grilling some scared witless guy credited only as "Farmer," whose truck appeared to have been used by Richard for the hit-and-run of the little boy. Then, "Farmer" failed to meet-up with Andy later on, at a pre-arranged time, and we were then shown an ominous exterior shot of "Farmer's" house.

Later (either at the end of this episode or one soon after), someone pokes their head in at the RR, and asks if anyone has seen "Billy."

Still later, we are re-introduced to Audrey Horne who is talking with a man who calls himself her husband. Audrey tells this man (Charlie) that she has been having an affair with "Billy," and that he is missing, and she wants to go find him. Charlie then relays a story to Audrey that includes a part about how "Chuck" stole "Billy's" truck. The only type of reference we've seen so far in the program to anything like this is when Richard took "Farmer's" truck.

At this point, we know that a "Billy" is missing, and that "Farmer" never showed-up for his meeting with Andy, which could mean many things (Richard killed or injured him, or he flew the coop, so to speak).

Except now, in recent episodes, we've sort of drifted away from that "Farmer" guy, and have since been introduced (however briefly) to a "Chuck," and then a girl credited as Sophie was talking about having seen Billy all bloodied before he went missing. And then now several folks (online) are speculating that Billy could be the guy credited as "Drunk" in the Twin Peaks jail cell.

So, all of this is to say: Are we ever going to find out what happened to "Farmer?" Was he just a red herring? Will any of this "Billy" stuff actually go anywhere?

 

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Posted : 25/08/2017 10:51 am
(@seattle-swede)
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I think a lot about your farmer query though I didn't make the clever connection you did.  

Some sharp person with spare time will no doubt construct a matrix to include this along with all the other "Are we ever going to find out what happened to "Farmer?" Was he just a red herring? Will any of this "Billy" stuff actually go anywhere?" --type of candidates.

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Posted : 25/08/2017 11:15 am
(@mad-sweeney)
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I don't know if he's Billy or not but the "drunk" (who I don't think actually is drunk) in the jail cell looks to me like he took a bullet through the face. It took out some teeth and left a hole in his cheek that was patched up by Doctor Nick from the Simpsons. "Bye everybody!"

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Posted : 25/08/2017 11:29 am
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I have no idea how these interrelationships between Audrey, Billy, Chuck, Tina, the farmer, Uncle are all going to connect or work out.  Billy could be Richard in that he was in a truck and killed someone and then ran off after nearly killing Miriam and taking money from his grandmother.  So in that sense Richard could be Billy in that he stole a truck and went missing but then if Audrey is having an affair with Billy then that doesn't connect.

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Posted : 25/08/2017 11:51 am
(@matthew_gladney)
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Posted by: Andrew Glasson

I have no idea how these interrelationships between Audrey, Billy, Chuck, Tina, the farmer, Uncle are all going to connect or work out.  Billy could be Richard in that he was in a truck and killed someone and then ran off after nearly killing Miriam and taking money from his grandmother.  So in that sense Richard could be Billy in that he stole a truck and went missing but then if Audrey is having an affair with Billy then that doesn't connect.

Who is Uncle?

 

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Posted : 25/08/2017 11:54 am
(@mj_gilbert)
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Posted by: Matthew Gladney
Posted by: Andrew Glasson

I have no idea how these interrelationships between Audrey, Billy, Chuck, Tina, the farmer, Uncle are all going to connect or work out.  Billy could be Richard in that he was in a truck and killed someone and then ran off after nearly killing Miriam and taking money from his grandmother.  So in that sense Richard could be Billy in that he stole a truck and went missing but then if Audrey is having an affair with Billy then that doesn't connect.

Who is Uncle?

 

Who indeed. "Uncle comes up twice- once, by the lade screaming at Bobby in the car, and then when Megan, Tina's daughter is describing Billy's last appearance. I think those references are connected. I can conceive that there could be one grand answer that ties up ALL of these questions, but I hope it is a good one, not a toss off like  "oh, btw, the Silence blew up the Tardis, so that's that..."

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Posted : 25/08/2017 12:05 pm
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Posted by: Matthew Gladney
Posted by: Andrew Glasson

I have no idea how these interrelationships between Audrey, Billy, Chuck, Tina, the farmer, Uncle are all going to connect or work out.  Billy could be Richard in that he was in a truck and killed someone and then ran off after nearly killing Miriam and taking money from his grandmother.  So in that sense Richard could be Billy in that he stole a truck and went missing but then if Audrey is having an affair with Billy then that doesn't connect.

Who is Uncle?

 

Her uncle is joining us! We've got miles to go! or I'm not sure if my uncle was there (twice) 

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Posted : 25/08/2017 12:06 pm
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Posted by: Matthew Gladney
Posted by: Andrew Glasson

I have no idea how these interrelationships between Audrey, Billy, Chuck, Tina, the farmer, Uncle are all going to connect or work out.  Billy could be Richard in that he was in a truck and killed someone and then ran off after nearly killing Miriam and taking money from his grandmother.  So in that sense Richard could be Billy in that he stole a truck and went missing but then if Audrey is having an affair with Billy then that doesn't connect.

Who is Uncle?

 

Megan's uncle, the one she wasn't sure of was there when Billy ran out of the house. She mentioned this during her conversation with Sophie.

I have no idea if this uncle is the same one the honking woman was talking about. 

Until Audrey puts on that damn coat and goes to the roadhouse we won't know. 

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Posted : 25/08/2017 12:07 pm
(@myn0k)
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From FWWM -

Cole stated that Lil was his "mother' sister's girl." Missing in that sentence was the word "uncle"; this was then elaborated on when Cole placed four fingers in front of his eyes like prison bars. This meant that the sheriff's uncle was in prison.

 

Relevant to uncle?

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Posted : 25/08/2017 12:58 pm
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That's a crucial scene for sure.  The way is presented, the music, that open door. And We basically don't know anything about it, not even the date considering the strong theory on the "10" on Andy's rolex indicating the day. We don't know the farmer's name, we don't know what events or investigations followed the missing appointment. It's like it happened in another dimension

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Posted : 25/08/2017 6:16 pm
(@michael_benedetti)
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The TV trope for 'Twin Peaks' and 'The Return' is still Soap Opera.  There are always parallel story lines alluded to that may never get resolved. 

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Posted : 25/08/2017 6:52 pm
(@the-conversation-is-lively)
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That scene has to be really important! The music cues, the mood was classic Peaks! 

But what are the chances of two stolen trucks within the same friend group? ?

 

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Posted : 26/08/2017 3:59 am
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Posted by: Myn0k

From FWWM -

Cole stated that Lil was his "mother' sister's girl." Missing in that sentence was the word "uncle"; this was then elaborated on when Cole placed four fingers in front of his eyes like prison bars. This meant that the sheriff's uncle was in prison.

 

Relevant to uncle?

So the bleeding man in the Twin Peaks prison could be 'uncle' (he does not look anything like 'The Farmer'). But the bleeding man in prison is a reality copy of the 'lever woodsman' in the above-the-convenience-store dimension. A doppelgänger, just like Naido? 

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Posted : 26/08/2017 7:08 am
(@arcadesonfire)
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All I know is it seems to me like Chad* is the only one who can perceive "the drunk." So I don't think "the drunk" is any actual human character who has been discussed. 

(*maybe Naido too. But not the police or James/Freddie.)

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Posted : 26/08/2017 6:29 pm
(@dobbshead)
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Who is Uncle?

 

Megan's uncle, the one she wasn't sure of was there when Billy ran out of the house. She mentioned this during her conversation with Sophie.

I have no idea if this uncle is the same one the honking woman was talking about. 

Until Audrey puts on that damn coat and goes to the roadhouse we won't know. 

I watched Charlie's phone call to Tina and took it upon myself to imagine a plausible scenario that would produce his responses.  I am of the opinion that Tina is Charlie's sister.  He has a relationship with her while Charlie's wife Audrey and Tina are at odds and do not speak.  Tina informs Charlie of something and Tina perhaps makes Charlie promise not to tell Audrey.  That would make Charlie Meghan's uncle who may or may not have been there.  Charlie doesn't come across as totally forthcoming to his wife Audrey.  He may not be abundantly fond of Billy either. 

As for the poltergeist passenger, I think it's not related to anything, really.  I think it's more about Twin Peaks and maybe even Bobby Briggs' life and family and occupation than real characters whose story concerns us.  Sickness and Impatience cruise the streets should you glance in your neighbors' windows.  I don't expect to revisit them, but I would delight in being found wrong of course. 

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Posted : 26/08/2017 8:51 pm
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