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[Solved] The Dutchman's (the motel dimension) is...

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 ...a prison. The woodsmen are guards and the Bosom woman the gaoler (by the way Bosom comes from a Dutch word that meant "enclosure").

The motel rooms are prison cells and Jeffries is a prisoner there.

Mr. C is not visiting Jeffries territory, it is his territory. Hence the ease in accessing it (woodsmen are just letting him in as if a kind of "boss" is in the building).

In fact, the scene with Jeffries is a sort of interrogation if you look at it closer. An interrogation that is not interrupted because Jeffries wishes to but by an alarm. The telephone alarms Mr. C that Richard is approaching his car, it is an immediate exit system from the prison dimension.

I would not be surprised if other known figures are also imprisoned there.

(it is called the Dutchman's because of the dutch painter floral patterns on the walls which have a significance I cannot figure out. Is the realist dutch painting seen by Lynch - the abstract contemporary painter - as a sort of creative prison?). 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:17 pm
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Great interpretation.  

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:21 pm
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If true, Perhaps Coop was also imprisoned there prior to his release.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:23 pm
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Wow, super interesting take on it. Especially the bosom woman which didn't make sense as a character description before. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:38 pm
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I also believe that the motel is a real place (as shown in FWWM). But the motel's prison dimension is accessed through the convenience store. Kind of like in the Silent Hill video game/film. A haunted motel of some sort. The convenience store must be a place of entry/exit to/from various haunted places (the spirit dimension of various real spaces)

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:42 pm
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Posted by: fullgomenakias

 ...a prison. The woodsmen are guards and the Bosom woman the gaoler (by the way Bosom comes from a Dutch word that meant "enclosure").

The motel rooms are prison cells and Jeffries is a prisoner there.

Mr. C is not visiting Jeffries territory, it is his territory. Hence the ease in accessing it (woodsmen are just letting him in as if a kind of "boss" is in the building).

In fact, the scene with Jeffries is a sort of interrogation if you look at it closer. An interrogation that is not interrupted because Jeffries wishes to but by an alarm. The telephone alarms Mr. C that Richard is approaching his car, it is an immediate exit system from the prison dimension.

I would not be surprised if other known figures are also imprisoned there.

(it is called the Dutchman's because of the dutch painter floral patterns on the walls which have a significance I cannot figure out. Is the realist dutch painting seen by Lynch - the abstract contemporary painter - as a sort of creative prison?). 

If this is Mr C territory, then why didn't he know Jeffries was there. Why did he have to learn that from Ray?

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:55 pm
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Isn't the entire episode about prisons? James/British guy jailed, Big Ed being "released" from the marriage prison, 2 people (log lady, junkie boyfriend) dying, being let free/released from their earthly life/suffering), Cooper released from his zombiesque Dougie limbo, Audrey at the peak of what seems to be an emotional prison that is not allowing her to leave the same room we ve been seeing her inside throughout the series, even Chantel and company discussing torturing (prisoners of war, etc). 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 10:00 pm
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If this is Mr C territory, then why didn't he know Jeffries was there. Why did he have to learn that from Ray?

Maybe he didn't know Jeffries was tea-poted... Or some other theory. Regardless, if this was Jeffries territory, and Jeffries was indeed after him to kill him, why go there and leave unharmed? Woodsmen and the Bosom lady are allowing him to go see Jeffries. One of the woodsmen is clearly waiting for him to arrive outside the convenience store.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 10:04 pm
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Don't forget about Bob. It could be Bob's territory not necessarily Mr C's.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 10:06 pm
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Posted by: Caoimhín Shirey

Don't forget about Bob. It could be Bob's territory not necessarily Mr C's.

yeah. evil spirits gang territory (if they are collectively Bob, then Bob territory). Jeffries might have also become corrupted by this system and have joined. Being imprisoned by them doesn't mean he is necessarily a good guy (though I do lean towards it, imagining that Lynch would not depict Bowie as a negative force right after his death).

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 10:12 pm
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If Jeffries is imprisoned he's also allowed outside communications? We know he must have talked to Ray because Ray knew Jeffries is at  the Dutchman's. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 10:26 pm
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If Jeffries is imprisoned he's also allowed outside communications? We know he must have talked to Ray because Ray knew Jeffries is at  the Dutchman's. 

You are right. But maybe phonecalls are not a problem (he is spiritey as it appears, no need for a cellphone to make a phonecall), but haunting/possessing a body might be what they dont want him to do and keep him imprisoned. The teapot bell thing is clearly connected to electricity, kind of like a spirit trap (?) 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 10:40 pm
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Next episode's title: "no knock, no doorbell". This sounds like a description of the convenience store (this upside-down dimension). We know episode titles are character lines so I assume that someone who knows this place (Gordon? the awaken Cooper? Diane?) is going to explain in depth what this place is all about.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 11:07 pm
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so Jeffrey is a percolator these days ?

 
Posted : 22/08/2017 2:42 am
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I like this theory. 

Wouldn't be so certain it should be marked as "solved" though 😉

 
Posted : 22/08/2017 2:52 am
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