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Since Audrey & Charlie have been trying to get out the door for three episodes now, I have to think they're not in everyone else's timeline. Plus, Audrey seems to be avoiding going out, which feels like one of those maddening dream moments where you're trying to do something, but are never actually able to.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 12:36 am
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Why not plain agoraphobia? Traumatized as she is, and probably ashamed of things either done by her and her father and her son? 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 2:28 am
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Harold was that way, though I suspect secretly he was afraid of the dark energies around TP. "You have infected me!"

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 2:44 am
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Looks like psychosis (heavy post traumatic stress) instead of coma to me. Could she have gotten out of a coma in this state?  In a traumatic psychosis over being raped and pregnant...her psychiatrist Charles took pity on her and they married (Charlie for her money) and since then she phantasizes constantly about her other, better life with Billy...but is clear by now that she never goes out and has agorophobia. Her Roadhouse - Billy - Tina - Chuck rants are based on shards of memory of going out as a young girl (Roadhouse - Chuck - Tina) or friends of her son Richard (Billy). Her last 'pre-coma' lover was John Justine Wheeler, played by BILLY Zane

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 3:09 am
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Posted by: Audrey Horne

After this episode, does anyone still not convinced that the entire Audrey/Charlie scene takes place in her comatose dream??

Up until today's episode I expected that Audrey was in a mental institution, not in coma.

Greg Fields put it well in his post. Seems as if Audrey's unwillingness to exit the house symbolises her incapability of waking up from the coma.

This was also in last week's episode (Both Monica and Audrey twirling their finger around the coffee cup):

With Monica Bellucci uttering "we're like the dreamer who dreams, and then lives inside the dream." In the original RR Diner scene Audrey remarks the music being just too dreamy, as well.

 
 
Posted : 21/08/2017 4:54 am
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Posted by: JaseToTheG
Posted by: Audrey Horne

After this episode, does anyone still not convinced that the entire Audrey/Charlie scene takes place in her comatose dream??

No reference at all to her family, esp. Richard. The fact that she seems only able to interact with Charlie in all her scenes (while keeps ranting and forgetting about herself)  seem to prove that she hasn't really woken up yet.

Yes and I know a lot of things have been repeated in their scenes (Roadhouse, Billy) but this scene I got the strange feeling that Charlie realllllllllly wants her to put on her coat.  Straight jacket perhaps????

I would say that Charlie is Audrey, in that she is imagining him.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 5:38 am
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Posted by: Audrey Horne

After this episode, does anyone still not convinced that the entire Audrey/Charlie scene takes place in her comatose dream??

Up until today's episode I expected that Audrey was in a mental institution, not in coma.

Greg Fields put it well in his post. Seems as if Audrey's unwillingness to exit the house symbolises her incapability of waking up from the coma.

This was also in last week's episode (Both Monica and Audrey twirling their finger around the coffee cup):

With Monica Bellucci uttering "we're like the dreamer who dreams, and then lives inside the dream." In the original RR Diner scene Audrey remarks the music being just too dreamy, as well.

 

Yes there is that connection.  Also I felt that Charlie was quite reasonable in last night's episode of wanting to go to the Roadhouse and it was Audrey who was stalling to go out.  Also what day are Audrey's scenes taking place in relation to the other scenes in Twin Peaks?  Why did Richard go to his grandmother's house to get money and not Audrey?  Why does Audrey feel no concern for Richard or mention her family?  If she is dreaming all this how come all the people she is talking about Billy, Tina and Chuck are real people and if she has been in a coma for 25 years then how does she know these people?  The roadhouse scenes are obviously real else that would mean the Twin Peaks sheriff department is part of her dream too.  The Audrey scenes therefore have to exist in reality and not a dreamscape.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 5:40 am
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I haven't read the Secret History of Twin Peaks fully yet, but are there details of whereabouts of Audrey after the explosion? Perhaps Audrey hasn't been in coma for all of 25 years?

What baffles me is that if I recall correctly, this episode was the first time anyone acknowledged Audrey this season. (Richard to Mr. C) Has Ben Horne, Tina, Billy or Chuck ever mentioned a word about Audrey? If they haven't, wouldn't it hint that they expect her to be in an unconscious state. And maybe she has been for quite some time, which is why Audrey has had a close to none significance in Season 3.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 5:57 am
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Back to the coma theory then, eh..?

Well yeah she may be in a coma, but not the coma induced by the bank's explosion. It's not unheard of for someone to be in a coma, then wake up and live for 25 years and then fall into another coma for an entirely different reason. That'd explain some of the behavior of other characters.

Or maybe she's institutionalized, yeah. That could still hold up. Plus I loved those twists in Buffy and Deep Space 9... (And probably tons of other shows...)

The question is, do Lynch & Frost want to stick to their heightened reality, or get inspiration from big twists from other shows, or remain realistic? I don't know. I was surprised that the Big Ed story this week was so... straightforward! (It makes me question the point of the last scene in Ep 13... With the glitches & fire...)

My point is, I don't think it's THAT important. I'm not particularly interested in Audrey, so I have only limited time to devote to her issues. Especially from a needy woman like her. ^^

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 6:12 am
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Posted by: René-Gilles Deberdt

I was surprised that the Big Ed story this week was so... straightforward! (It makes me question the point of the last scene in Ep 13... With the glitches & fire...)

I guess they just wanted to prepare us for the worst, only to give us a happy ending instead!

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:17 am
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Posted by: TrooppinenElli

I haven't read the Secret History of Twin Peaks fully yet, but are there details of whereabouts of Audrey after the explosion? Perhaps Audrey hasn't been in coma for all of 25 years?

What baffles me is that if I recall correctly, this episode was the first time anyone acknowledged Audrey this season. (Richard to Mr. C) Has Ben Horne, Tina, Billy or Chuck ever mentioned a word about Audrey? If they haven't, wouldn't it hint that they expect her to be in an unconscious state. And maybe she has been for quite some time, which is why Audrey has had a close to none significance in Season 3.

In ep 7 Doc Hayward mentioned Audrey in his conversation with Sheriff Truman, saying she was in a coma. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:33 am
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With every passing scene between these two I get more and more terrified. I was literally on the edge of my seat worried something horrible was about to happen.  I'm so scared watching these scenes now. 

 

Im pretty certain this is not a coma. I'm almost 100% that this is all in Audrey's head. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:44 am
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Was Charlie wearing stilts?  Something seemed very unnatural with his body in that scene. 

Also hoping the "friend" from the Monica Belluci dream has nothing to do with the so-called "bosomy woman" who helped DoppleCoop locate teapot Jeffries by unlocking the door for him. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:51 am
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Posted by: kdawg68

Was Charlie wearing stilts?  Something seemed very unnatural with his body in that scene. 

 

Clark Middleton has rheumatoid arthritis. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:08 am
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Posted by: kdawg68

Was Charlie wearing stilts?  Something seemed very unnatural with his body in that scene. 

Also hoping the "friend" from the Monica Belluci dream has nothing to do with the so-called "bosomy woman" who helped DoppleCoop locate teapot Jeffries by unlocking the door for him. 

As far as I understand, the actor is the same height as her, but has short arms and a short neck. I had a school nurse like that.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:18 am
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