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(@jocelyn)
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Posted by: shrrrrrrrrrrk
Posted by: Karen
Posted by: shrrrrrrrrrrk
Posted by: MJ Gilbert

1. The room Mr. C first enters is the same in the picture on Laura's wall, the one she enters through in her dream.

2. The woodsman sested by the door looks like he has been bleeding out of his nose and mouth. A Billy connection?

3. The steaming thing that Phillip is speaking though seems pretty related to the "bells" on top of Naido's space-cell and in the Fireman's place. Is Phillip in the circle that the steam is obscuring.

What else?

I initially thought it was Mike pulling the strings regarding "Jeffries". Now, I'm wondering if it isn't the Giant/?????/Fireman. Is there really a Jeffries, now?

The actor was credited as "voice of Jeffries" 

Sure, but what does that mean? It's definitely not David Bowie's voice, as another actor was credited. But that doesn't mean that there truly is a Jeffries left.

But it MAY mean that. Otherwise the credits might have just said  "the voice above the convenience store."

Or more to the point, why would these other characters pretend to be Jeffries? Mr C thought he had been in communication with  Jeffries until recently. Ray thought so too,  and then became doubtful. If it isn't and maybe never was Jeffries,  why is it so important to keep up the pretense? What is Jeffries' role in this story?

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Posted : 21/08/2017 9:08 am
(@charlie)
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Posted by: Caoimhín Shirey

The place where Jeffries is is called The Dutchman's. 

I agree, but is that the convenience store, the place above it, or the motel location?  To me, it's an unimportant point of difference at this point, but not clear either.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 9:32 am
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Posted by: shrrrrrrrrrrk

Sure, but what does that mean? It's definitely not David Bowie's voice, as another actor was credited. But that doesn't mean that there truly is a Jeffries left.

Speaking of Jeffries's voice, seriously, worst lip-sync I've seen in a while in this week's flashback footage... You can see his lips move for another second with no sound coming out of them. And when sounds come out, they don't match the lips. And the voice isn't even remotely close to Bowie's. Last week it was acceptable, this week it actually took me out of the scene. They should have kept Bowie's original track, and then everyone would simply have assumed that the 'slightly Bowie-like voice' heard from within the bell/stupa was simply Jeffries getting older or weaker or more ghost-like.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 9:49 am
(@mj_gilbert)
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Posted by: Jocelyn Rowe
Posted by: shrrrrrrrrrrk
Posted by: Karen
Posted by: shrrrrrrrrrrk
Posted by: MJ Gilbert

1. The room Mr. C first enters is the same in the picture on Laura's wall, the one she enters through in her dream.

2. The woodsman sested by the door looks like he has been bleeding out of his nose and mouth. A Billy connection?

3. The steaming thing that Phillip is speaking though seems pretty related to the "bells" on top of Naido's space-cell and in the Fireman's place. Is Phillip in the circle that the steam is obscuring.

What else?

I initially thought it was Mike pulling the strings regarding "Jeffries". Now, I'm wondering if it isn't the Giant/?????/Fireman. Is there really a Jeffries, now?

The actor was credited as "voice of Jeffries" 

Sure, but what does that mean? It's definitely not David Bowie's voice, as another actor was credited. But that doesn't mean that there truly is a Jeffries left.

But it MAY mean that. Otherwise the credits might have just said  "the voice above the convenience store."

Or more to the point, why would these other characters pretend to be Jeffries? Mr C thought he had been in communication with  Jeffries until recently. Ray thought so too,  and then became doubtful. If it isn't and maybe never was Jeffries,  why is it so important to keep up the pretense? What is Jeffries' role in this story?

Great question. SOMEONE seems to br impersonating Jeffries- I took that conversation about Ray as an indication that PJ was surprised to hear about the hit. 

But it also seemed that PJ was in the dark about Dale/Mr. C. 

It sure does not seem like that was PJ that Mr. C was talking to after he killed Darya...

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Posted : 21/08/2017 9:57 am
(@cyndeewillow)
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Posted by: Sammy Weir
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Who was the "woman" who unlocked the door then turned around to leave and looked like a man? 

Was that the same actress who played the homeless person in Mulholland Drive?

If you waited until all the credits rolled, this appeared:

 

 
The woman with the key suddenly comes into view. Very creepy.
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Posted : 21/08/2017 10:50 am
(@javier_lo_dice)
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Posted by: Caoimhín Shirey
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Who was the "woman" who unlocked the door then turned around to leave and looked like a man? 

I got a younger Mrs Tremond vibe from her. 

I thought exactly the same when I saw her

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Posted : 21/08/2017 2:36 pm
(@myn0k)
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The thing that got me was Jeffries's "so your are Cooper" comment.

Is Mr C cooper, or the doppelganger? The comment suggests the former... but could be a red herring. 

 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 4:08 pm
(@mj_gilbert)
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Posted by: Myn0k

The thing that got me was Jeffries's "so your are Cooper" comment.

Is Mr C cooper, or the doppelganger? The comment suggests the former... but could be a red herring. 

 

Yeah, that comment has caused a disturbance in the force.

I don't think that Mr. C is "Cooper Prime". IT seems to me that Jeffries is not entirely aware that there is a doppelganger...

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Posted : 21/08/2017 4:11 pm
(@100monkeys)
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Posted by: Caoimhín Shirey

The place where Jeffries is is called The Dutchman's. 

Not sure it was mentioned already but the actor playing "the fireman" Carel Struyken is actually Dutch. It's a bit meta to use this fact in the script but it's David Lynch so it is very possible he did!

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Posted : 21/08/2017 4:52 pm
(@the-conversation-is-lively)
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One theory is that Judy is a nickname for Garland Briggs (Judy Garland). Malachy Sreenan playing the role of 'bosomy woman' may be intended to suggest we should be looking for a male Judy. 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 8:43 pm
(@jocelyn)
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Posted by: The conversation is lively

One theory is that Judy is a nickname for Garland Briggs (Judy Garland). Malachy Sreenan playing the role of 'bosomy woman' may be intended to suggest we should be looking for a male Judy. 

Good thought. It's possible. 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 10:20 pm
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