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(@arcadesonfire)
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I was having such a hard time understanding the gloved lad that I planned to rewatch with closed captioning on.... Reading the posts above though, I see that wouldn't help me at all either. 

We might not respect tea or monarchs anymore, but at least us bloody Yanks can speak proper English!

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Posted : 18/08/2017 10:39 am
(@buttercup)
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The only reason I understand some of what he said is because of translations that people put here. 

 

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Posted : 18/08/2017 10:46 am
(@mj_gilbert)
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Posted by: Jesse Newkirk

I was having such a hard time understanding the gloved lad that I planned to rewatch with closed captioning on.... Reading the posts above though, I see that wouldn't help me at all either. 

We might not respect tea or monarchs anymore, but at least us bloody Yanks can speak proper English!

You speak Merkin.

I AM the FBI.

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Posted : 18/08/2017 10:51 am
(@seattle-swede)
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Seems as though the Brits here are telling us the accent is comically overdone, and I believe them.  Just a signature Lynch exaggeration for his own sake, which I enjoy so much.  Not at all different from the overdone Francophone of Gordon's escort, or Jacque Renault in prior scenes for that matter.

Bite de boolet, bay-bay. heh heh.

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Posted : 18/08/2017 10:53 am
(@charlie)
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I have to admit that on first and second screening I had the same response to this.  Just seems kind of childish or beneath Twin Peaks to now have a super human hero character.  But to be honestly, it's my same issue with the old Nadine story line.  Just a supernatural element that seems made for the comic books not a complex and well designed story.

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Posted : 18/08/2017 11:34 am
(@badalamenti-fan)
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Posted by: Charlie

I have to admit that on first and second screening I had the same response to this.  Just seems kind of childish or beneath Twin Peaks to now have a super human hero character.  But to be honestly, it's my same issue with the old Nadine story line.  Just a supernatural element that seems made for the comic books not a complex and well designed story.

I suspect what we're seeing here is Lynch and Frost playing with the comic-book superhero genre-- the prevailing genre of our time, at least in box-office receipts-- much in the same fashion they played with soap-opera and other genre tv in the original series (e.g., police procedural, classic detective noir, 1930s melodrama, 1950s and '60s "rebel without a cause" teenage tragedies)

If Freddie Sykes were to prove central to the long arc of the narrative of The Return, serving as some kind of deus ex machina device...

... my head would implode, my body would sublimate into gas, and all that would remain would be a small, iridescent-pink pearl.

And the angels wouldn't help me...

 

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Posted : 18/08/2017 11:43 am
(@charlie)
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Bad,

I feel better about it now.  thank you.

My hope is that if they go down this path and build him up as a hero, he must fail.  Not only fail, but uber fail.  Otherwise I will need to look forward to your demise to settle my sadness.

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Posted : 18/08/2017 11:45 am
(@arcadesonfire)
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Seeing as that his glove is on the right hand, perhaps his destiny is not to arm wrestle Mr C. Maybe instead, he just needs to give a thumbs up!.... Didn't Coke and Coop always use the right hand for that?

Imagine Dougie Coop running around the Great Northern for some reason. A combo of shoes, Room 315, and seeing a man with a badge flash a righteous thumbs up might all help to bring him back. (Though I think Lucy will indeed need to judge between Mr C and Dougie Cooper at some point.)

Note also that the glove is green, perhaps contrasting with the ominous yellow and red traffic lights. 

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Posted : 18/08/2017 1:04 pm
(@possiblegrenade)
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Posted by: Badalamenti Fan
Posted by: Charlie

I have to admit that on first and second screening I had the same response to this.  Just seems kind of childish or beneath Twin Peaks to now have a super human hero character.  But to be honestly, it's my same issue with the old Nadine story line.  Just a supernatural element that seems made for the comic books not a complex and well designed story.

I suspect what we're seeing here is Lynch and Frost playing with the comic-book superhero genre-- the prevailing genre of our time, at least in box-office receipts-- much in the same fashion they played with soap-opera and other genre tv in the original series (e.g., police procedural, classic detective noir, 1930s melodrama, 1950s and '60s "rebel without a cause" teenage tragedies)

If Freddie Sykes were to prove central to the long arc of the narrative of The Return, serving as some kind of deus ex machina device...

... my head would implode, my body would sublimate into gas, and all that would remain would be a small, iridescent-pink pearl.

And the angels wouldn't help me...

 

What I love about Twin Peaks is how it can switch between (and transcend) genres at any time. It’s a crime drama in one scene, a love story the next. It’s slapstick comedy, horror, science fiction. There are zombies and demons. A lot of people have compared the Bellucci dream scene to Inception, and I was also thinking of that movie while watching people at a café in Paris talking about dreams, while in dreams. It feels like another case (similar to the desert scene with the Mitchums) of Lynch referencing a popular film/director.  Now with Freddie we have a super hero plotline! It felt like multiple genres during the old series, but has taken it so much further with the Return. This show is a world where Lynch/Frost can explore stories and characters of all different flavors and tie them all together.

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Posted : 18/08/2017 2:10 pm
(@mj_gilbert)
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Posted by: Badalamenti Fan
Posted by: Charlie

I have to admit that on first and second screening I had the same response to this.  Just seems kind of childish or beneath Twin Peaks to now have a super human hero character.  But to be honestly, it's my same issue with the old Nadine story line.  Just a supernatural element that seems made for the comic books not a complex and well designed story.

I suspect what we're seeing here is Lynch and Frost playing with the comic-book superhero genre-- the prevailing genre of our time, at least in box-office receipts-- much in the same fashion they played with soap-opera and other genre tv in the original series (e.g., police procedural, classic detective noir, 1930s melodrama, 1950s and '60s "rebel without a cause" teenage tragedies)

If Freddie Sykes were to prove central to the long arc of the narrative of The Return, serving as some kind of deus ex machina device...

... my head would implode, my body would sublimate into gas, and all that would remain would be a small, iridescent-pink pearl.

And the angels wouldn't help me...

 

I actually got concerned about the Fireman potentially providing deus ex machina solutions in this episode. I feel ambivalent about the prospect that Andy now "Knows All" (as fun as that would ALSO be)...

All

I AM the FBI.

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Posted : 18/08/2017 2:40 pm
(@myn0k)
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As a chap from the big smoke, I found his accent a bit cringeworthy, but only because it's quite spot on for some cockney types 🙂

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Posted : 18/08/2017 3:24 pm
(@badalamenti-fan)
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert
Posted by: Jesse Newkirk

I was having such a hard time understanding the gloved lad that I planned to rewatch with closed captioning on.... Reading the posts above though, I see that wouldn't help me at all either. 

We might not respect tea or monarchs anymore, but at least us bloody Yanks can speak proper English!

You speak Merkin.

Indeed! Most of us sound like FWWM Philip Jeffries, IMO (or, in my dreams??)

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Posted : 18/08/2017 5:04 pm
(@cyndeewillow)
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Posted by: Badalamenti Fan
Posted by: MJ Gilbert
Posted by: Jesse Newkirk

I was having such a hard time understanding the gloved lad that I planned to rewatch with closed captioning on.... Reading the posts above though, I see that wouldn't help me at all either. 

We might not respect tea or monarchs anymore, but at least us bloody Yanks can speak proper English!

You speak Merkin.

Indeed! Most of us sound like FWWM Philip Jeffries, IMO (or, in my dreams??)

Phillip Jeffries' Southern accent is faker to me than the gloved Cockney kid. I'll take Benedict Cumberbatch's midwestern drawl in Doctor Strange or David Tennant's Southern accent in the American Broadchurch any day (and people even make fun of theirs). 

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Posted : 18/08/2017 5:28 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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If Bowie had more time, I reckon he'd have nailed the accent perfectly.  According to the various musicians he worked with, he was a gifted mimic.

As it was, he said all the scenes he shot were done in a hurry, due to his touring/recording schedules.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 18/08/2017 5:35 pm
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We are like the dreamers who dream...

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