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(@garmonbozia_addict)
Lodger

So what are the implications of this title for the Giant? Like where does this fall into the lore of the entire show? Does this have to do with the Log Lady's husband/Major Briggs? What does this mean for the Giant character? Does it lead to any motive? Am I missing something from the lore that makes this crazy or are we all wondering the same things with the name "Fireman?"

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:09 am
(@samxtherapy)
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Don't know what anyone else thinks about it but his name was discovered around the time of Episode 8.

I can think of two possible interpretations:

Fireman can mean someone who puts out fires, thereby saving lives and/or property.

Fireman can also mean someone who piles coal into a furnace, in order to make a steam engine go.

Either of them could be valid.  He could be in the business of saving lives, or he could be keeping the wheels turning properly.  Either way, I think he's a good guy.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:15 am
(@octaviolemos)
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Posted by: Garmonbozia Addict

So what are the implications of this title for the Giant? Like where does this fall into the lore of the entire show? Does this have to do with the Log Lady's husband/Major Briggs? What does this mean for the Giant character? Does it lead to any motive? Am I missing something from the lore that makes this crazy or are we all wondering the same things with the name "Fireman?"

Maybe I'm being too simplistic but fire was always a symbol of evil in TP's world, so...

Edit: After reading Sam's post I need to clarify that I believe he is trying to put out this huge fire consuming Twin Peaks (the World?).

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:16 am
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Don't know what anyone else thinks about it but his name was discovered around the time of Episode 8.

I can think of two possible interpretations:

Fireman can mean someone who puts out fires, thereby saving lives and/or property.

Fireman can also mean someone who piles coal into a furnace, in order to make a steam engine go.

Either of them could be valid.  He could be in the business of saving lives, or he could be keeping the wheels turning properly.  Either way, I think he's a good guy.

I do like the ideas of him putting out the fire of evil. How was his name discovered around episode 8? A leak? 

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:25 am
(@octaviolemos)
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Don't know what anyone else thinks about it but his name was discovered around the time of Episode 8.

I can think of two possible interpretations:

Fireman can mean someone who puts out fires, thereby saving lives and/or property.

Fireman can also mean someone who piles coal into a furnace, in order to make a steam engine go.

Either of them could be valid.  He could be in the business of saving lives, or he could be keeping the wheels turning properly.  Either way, I think he's a good guy.

I do like the ideas of him putting out the fire of evil. How was his name discovered around episode 8? A leak? 

Badalamenti's song in the scene he creates Laura's orb his called "The Fireman".

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:27 am
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Posted by: OctavioLemos
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Don't know what anyone else thinks about it but his name was discovered around the time of Episode 8.

I can think of two possible interpretations:

Fireman can mean someone who puts out fires, thereby saving lives and/or property.

Fireman can also mean someone who piles coal into a furnace, in order to make a steam engine go.

Either of them could be valid.  He could be in the business of saving lives, or he could be keeping the wheels turning properly.  Either way, I think he's a good guy.

I do like the ideas of him putting out the fire of evil. How was his name discovered around episode 8? A leak? 

Badalamenti's song in the scene he creates Laura's orb his called "The Fireman".

That is incredible.

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:33 am
(@buttercup)
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I think he is literally a fireman.  When the fire (bad/evil) sounds an alarm, he responds.  He monitors events, and restores order and balance.  In Ep 8 everything is peaceful in the White Lodge as they listen to music, and then the alarm goes off.  These alarms are in multiple locations and appear to have different functions.  The one on the floating space cube has something to do with sending Agent Cooper where he needs to go.  We see another alarm in the theater, so there is an alarm on each floor of the White Lodge, similar to the way we have smoke detectors on different levels of our homes.   

When the alarm sounds, the Fireman turns it off  goes upstairs to his theater to see what happened.  Then he creates countermeasures.  He is definitely good and he's building his army of "firefighters" that will eventually confront and hopefully contain the evil fire that is consuming this story.      

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:36 am
(@pynchjan)
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For me, Lynch's main theme has always been the co-existence of the potentialities of good and evil (and sometimes the trouble of disentangling these mysterious inter-dependents) within the same person. The supernatural elements are fascinating and cinematic ways to engage an audience and to communicate. So, The Fireman, reminding here of the fireman waving at the beginning of Blue Velvet, "is a good guy" (like Andy or Cooper or Lucy, etc.) but not because he is incapable of doing harm or misjudging things. His task is to try to put out, channel, buffer, or transform fire-energy-electricity-desire-greed-ill-will.

By contrast, Sarah seems to have taken on or become the evil Mother but blaming demonic possession would be too convenient.  

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:39 am
(@_lio_)
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my guess was that Firemen put out fires

on another note, how did people figure out his name was the Fireman by episode 8? Just curious, I didn't hear that name until episode 14 but I kept reading it in the forums.

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:45 am
(@buttercup)
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I think Sarah is battling to remain in control over whatever is inside her.  For example, in the convenience store, she tries to warn the checkout girl and bag boy even as she is overtaken by an entity.  "Men are coming. Something happened to me."  That's why we see both black and white when she removes her face.  She has fire walking with her, but she is still fighting against it. 

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Posted : 15/08/2017 9:48 am
(@naogilles)
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Posted by: Lio Kantrowitz

on another note, how did people figure out his name was the Fireman by episode 8? Just curious, I didn't hear that name until episode 14 but I kept reading it in the forums.

As said above, it was because the music track for that scene was released officially, and was called The Fireman. Also, "???????" was 7 letters, just like "Fireman".

Re: the alarm, I didn't even think it could be a fireman alarm, I always thought of it as simply a broken down machine that would simply need to be restarted, similar to episode 3's. Gosh I love this forum.

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Posted : 15/08/2017 10:32 am
(@charlie)
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I have decided the Fireman has not been seen on our plane of existence sense his possession of Chuck Norris ended a few years ago.

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Posted : 15/08/2017 10:39 am
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(@mad-sweeney)
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I like to think he's a fireman in both senses of the word/job. One, he fights fires that are out of control. Two, he controls fires that need to remain burning. 

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Posted : 15/08/2017 10:54 am
(@lucas_bracci)
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Don't know what anyone else thinks about it but his name was discovered around the time of Episode 8.

I can think of two possible interpretations:

Fireman can mean someone who puts out fires, thereby saving lives and/or property.

Fireman can also mean someone who piles coal into a furnace, in order to make a steam engine go.

Either of them could be valid.  He could be in the business of saving lives, or he could be keeping the wheels turning properly.  Either way, I think he's a good guy.

You have the choice of interpretations in english.

French translators of the show broadcasted on Canal+, choosed to subtitle "je suis l'Homme du feu"  (I am the Man of the fire).

They let us only this option.

Not the other one in english, "Je suis le Pompier" (pompier = the 911 fireman).

So this french translation really pissed me off .

 

Italian translators have choosen the other option : "Io sono il Vigile del Fuoco" (vigile del fuoco  = 911 fireman !!!)

 

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Posted : 15/08/2017 10:55 am
(@roberto_bella)
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Posted by: pynchjan

For me, Lynch's main theme has always been the co-existence of the potentialities of good and evil (and sometimes the trouble of disentangling these mysterious inter-dependents) within the same person. The supernatural elements are fascinating and cinematic ways to engage an audience and to communicate. So, The Fireman, reminding here of the fireman waving at the beginning of Blue Velvet, "is a good guy" (like Andy or Cooper or Lucy, etc.) but not because he is incapable of doing harm or misjudging things. His task is to try to put out, channel, buffer, or transform fire-energy-electricity-desire-greed-ill-will.

By contrast, Sarah seems to have taken on or become the evil Mother but blaming demonic possession would be too convenient.  

I agree. Him being The Fireman doesn't necessarily mean he is All Good like a loving God.

If he was a pure representation of Good we might expect the White Lodge to actually be... white? Pure white light being the sum of all colors.

The fact that it's black and white suggests to me something else. But a fully white room in a Lynch production would be shocking, and almost unthinkable somehow. Which might be an even better reason to have one.

Or perhaps the Fireman's place ISN'T the White Lodge. Though he does create Laura, who seems to reveal a Pure White essence behind her face.

Or is Lynch suggesting a "Pure White Lodge" does not / cannot exist? That there's no such thing as total goodness? I'm not sure. That doesn't feel quite right b/c I think we have definitely seen the definition of total badness in Bob and Bad Coop, and one would expect the existence of it's doppelganger i.e. Pure Goodness.

Which perhaps leads us back to Andy in his uncomplicated purity of heart.

 

 

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Posted : 15/08/2017 11:05 am
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