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Trying to tie some loose ends.... HELP!

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(@martin_diaz)
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Hello! I'm from Argentina... and I'm sorry but I learned english by watching the red room so... spoilert alert... i'll try it

In some point of the episode we see smiley Fusco on the phone with his mother. She invited the trio for dinner on Sunday, but it's afraid they miss it beacuse of a murder investigation. The Fusco's laugh about it...

That Sunday is October 2 (If my calculations are correct)

We know that Chantal and Hutch are going to Vegas  fo the "Double Header" (Meechum Bros?)

Something that  I recall after that.

In a Youtube video from the Comic Con Kyle MacLachlan talks about one scene with Jim Belushi.

"in one scene, it was kind of a big scene. All things are going crazy... He decides to ad lib a line in this moment of high euphoria and blablablablablabla"

The only moment like that can be the scene when Dougie/Coop "Gives" the check to the Meechum brothers...  but if we are talking about a BIG scene... maybe when Hutch and Chantal goes over there to do their job...

So... if Kyle was on the set in that moment... maybe in the middle of a shootout. It means that Dougie/Coop is in the scene? So, he doesnt wake up (for now... I hope he wakes up)

Maybe Dougie/Coop can fix Hutch and Chantal like Tony....

 

Another thing...

In some promos for this season we ca see Harry Goaz (Andy) saying "dreams are more vivid this time"

Why he would say that?

I mean it's Andy... The Only one who had acces to the full script was Kyle (Cooper and MrC). The rest got just their parts.

So. What happens with Andy?

If we have some Twin Peaks Police action in the comming epiosdes (14 or 15),  they have to go to Jack Rabbit Palace.

In the same promos we saw Andy with a picnic basket... so I think Andy will go too with Hawk, Bobby and Truman...

What happen if Andy sets his camp in the exact spot where the portal appears?

Maybe he is the only one who can see thru the portal. Remember Gordon?

Only him saw the portal and thru. Diane, Tammy... they didn't see anything and Albert saw all blurry.

Remember the girl talking to the TV journalist after Ike attempt murder Dougie? She sais "Mr Jones moved very fast, like a cobra. I saw all blurry"

But... it's Andy... maybe he thinks he's daydreaming... or maybe he stays to long and goes thru the portal... What happend if the woodsman are there? 

But maybe he goes to the White Lodge, after all thats the place M. Briggs was looking for...

 

A detail....

In the very first scene of this season we saw Cooper and ???????. Cooper doesn't have the FBI pin. Is like when he goes thru the outlet and switch with Dougie. No shoes, no pin. Maybe this black and white scene was set in some near future when Cooper FINALLY wakes up. Because in all of the scenes in the red room and purple room he has the FBI pin and when he goes thru the outlet he left his shoes (and I think the pin too)

Maybe Andy comes back with this things and... something happens.... wow!

 

Another thing...

if you pay attention until Ep9 Madchen Amick appears  as "Shelly"  in the credits. But in episode 10 when we found out that becky  is Bobby's daughter, Madchen appears as "Shelly Briggs". So I think that  we will know soon who ?????? is (at least the name)

The Badalamenti song in Ep8 when ??????? gives the golden orb,  it's called "The fireman".. so I'll put my money on this. After all he was "The Giant" he doesn't have a "real" name like... Pepe...

Also... in the very first scene

?????? says to Cooper 

"Listen to the sounds"

(if you slow down that sound... is the Lever of the slot machines in the casino. And we hear that little sound 7 times.)

"It is in our house now"                

(like... the house always win. So.... the house can be the casino?)

-cooper looks to the gramophone-  "It is?"

"it all cannot be said aloud now" 

 (he doesn´t want to solve the riddle for Cooper or someones else is there)

"4-3-0" 

(... i dont have any idea. maybe is about time (4:30) or an adress (Sycamore 430) or 4+3+0=7... I saw a lot of references for number 7. Not just the number 7... for example one of the box's in the first episode when Bobby start crying after seen Laura's picture. That box has the number 7725 -> (2+5=7)  ->777. L ike the jackpot. Lucky 7 Insurance... Mr C cell in prison is 27 -two 7, like two Coopers...

 I don't understand about the numerology thing, but I saw it...

"Richard and Linda"

"Two birds with one stone"

I remember whe the evolution of the arm said "Bob, Bob, Bob". It's like "Cooper/Cooper" from M. Briggs, that means that are 2 Coopers

So, maybe the "Bob Bob Bob" are MrC, Richard and Linda (Richard and Linda are  (maybe) Bob's childs)

Maybe Cooper has to kill  Richard and Linda (or something like what he did to Tony) to stop the evil plans from Bob... or just stop the evil. I mean those guys will have children some day and will be "bad persons". It sounds stupid but make sense... for me at least.

 

About the promo videos...

There is some fotage that we don't see yet.

-Cooper (or MrC disguised like Cooper) Driving a black car at night (I put my money that is a Lincoln car... there is a lot of Lincon cars in this season)

-Cooper walking thru a dark alley with some guy

-Cooper with someone (I presume is a lady)

 

so... spoiler alert... maybe

I Just saw a video from TMZ taken by someone in some shooting location....

It looks a lot like that last image from the teasers. Cooper with some lady in the streets... 

but it's the Palmer's house.

So... Cooper (or MrC as Cooper) goes to the Palmer's house with some lady (Laura?)

If that guy walking thru the dark alley with Cooper is Leland?

Some kind of family reunion in the Palmer's house and some closure for Sarah... but I don't like how it sounds... cheesy

A dead person can leave the Black Lodge?

 

And the last thing....

Anyone notices some references to Lincoln?

The "Gotta light" guy does Lincoln impersonation (check it out)

A lot of Lincoln cars...

And Wikipedia says the following about Lincoln....

His legend tells that a few days before he was killed, he had had a premonitory dream, full of black omens. He had dreamed that he was asleep and that a crying had awakened him, got up and went to the East Room. Those present tell him that this man in the coffin is the president who was murdered. Lincoln had reason to dream of his murder, because death threats were growing.

Sound just like Cooper to me... premonitory dreams... death threats....

 

PD... why MrC drive a Black Silverado?

The name Silverado is a type of Spanglish indicating a place where silver is found; a parallel formation to El Dorado. (Gold is found) So.. silverado is kind of a doppelganger of El Dorado... 

And MrC wants to get to the "black fire place". The place where the black fire is found.... like "black silverado".... it's loose but it works for me... for now...

I think that if I keep thinking... maybe I end up like Dougie/Coop... but I love being wrong

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 12:10 am
(@mj_gilbert)
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Welcome- very forward-facing English, for someone who studied in the Red Room!

 

There is a LOT here. Asto the first point, the Fusco brother who is talking to his mother seems to be JOKING sbout the prospect of their dinner being disrupted by a murder (as if that is something that NEVER happens- odd, givne that it is Las Vegas, but that was my impression.

My thought was "oops, your dinner is going to be interrupted. Very interrupted.

 

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 12:19 am
(@jumping-man)
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert

Welcome- very forward-facing English, for someone who studied in the Red Room!

 

There is a LOT here. Asto the first point, the Fusco brother who is talking to his mother seems to be JOKING sbout the prospect of their dinner being disrupted by a murder (as if that is something that NEVER happens- odd, givne that it is Las Vegas, but that was my impression.

My thought was "oops, your dinner is going to be interrupted. Very interrupted.

 

When William Hastings was arrested, Phyllis Hastings said they would have friends for dinner... And the scene where Dougie and the Mitchum brothers are eating is interrupted by the woman from the casino. Another two interrupted diners !

 
Posted : 12/08/2017 7:25 am
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