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It's interesting how much information we've learned about Twin Peaks this season by watching the credits.  It's very atypical for any television show to have clues and to answer audience questions by having the credits do that for us.  I think it's a cool device that Lynch and Frost have used to reward viewers who are paying that much attention to them.

Here's some examples:

(1) ???????.  While watching the first episode, all of us believed that Cooper was speaking with the Giant.  Yet, the credits told us that the Carel Struycken character may not be the Giant after all. 

(2) Richard Horne.  We first see Richard in the Roadhouse acting like a total psychopath, but his name is never mentioned until the credits.  So Lynch and Frost decided to put the character's name to tell us who he was.  The credits alerted us to the fact that he was from the Horne family.

(3) Phillip Gerard - Every appearance by Al Strobel is credited as Phillip Gerard, and not as MIKE.  Why would Lynch and Frost choose Philip Gerard to be the credit listing, when we all know that isn't Phillip anymore.

(4) American Girl - No mention of those two words in the episode to tell us who that character was.  All of us assumed watching that it was Ronette Pulaski talking to Cooper, and without the credits, we would still believe that.  Now we're not so sure.

(5) Experiment vs. Experiment Model.  In Episode 1, the "thing" we saw in the box was called Experiment Model.  In Episode 8, the same "thing" we saw vomit out BOB was called Experiment.  What is the difference between a model and a non-model?  We wouldn't even have a name for this "thing" without credit information.

(6) Shelly vs. Shelly Briggs - In Episode 1, Shelly's last name is purposely hidden, and she is just credited as Shelly.  But in later episodes, she is credited as Shelly Briggs.  Was this to cause suspense and to hide what her last name is, in other words, so we wouldn't know yet what her relationship with Bobby was?  Becky even got a last name, Burnett, in Episode 5, to confirm that she and Steven were married and not just dating.  They could have just called Eamon Farren Richard, but deliberately chose to call him Richard Horne.

 

So as we watch each episode of Twin Peaks unfold, reading the credits becomes a very important part of viewership and gives us a lot of clues!  I love it.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:10 pm
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The Experiment Model and the other one aren't the same.  Look at the arms.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:12 pm
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Indeed.  I am the person who usually tunes out and leaves or changes the channel when the credits roll.  But I can't do that now.  I actually rewatch the credits!  

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:13 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

The Experiment Model and the other one aren't the same.  Look at the arms.

Correct, but it's played by the same actress, and is assumed to be the same entity.  So why 2 different names?

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:14 pm
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The show is not over until you see the electric Lynch/Frost logo.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:24 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

The Experiment Model and the other one aren't the same.  Look at the arms.

Correct, but it's played by the same actress, and is assumed to be the same entity.  So why 2 different names?

Because, despite assumptions, it ain't the same entity.  One has arms the right way round and nae horns, t'other one has wrong arms and horns.  Ergo, they're different beasties.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:27 pm
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The show is not over until you see the electric Lynch/Frost logo.

... and even knowing it is coming any second... the sound and sudden flashes gets me every week!!!

I have total recall of everything and anything I ever made up.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:29 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

The Experiment Model and the other one aren't the same.  Look at the arms.

Correct, but it's played by the same actress, and is assumed to be the same entity.  So why 2 different names?

Because, despite assumptions, it ain't the same entity.  One has arms the right way round and nae horns, t'other one has wrong arms and horns.  Ergo, they're different beasties.

So if you're right Sam, then what is the difference between "The Experiment Model" and "The Experiment"?  All we know 100 percent is that The Experiment Model killed 2 people and the The Experiment vomited BOB.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:31 pm
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Because one is a "Model"?  Maybe that's intentional, a clue that it's an artificially created - within the narrative - version of the thing they were looking for, a kind of decoy, which hunts and kills others trying to find the real one.

Just guessing.  For all I know, the continuity gang screwed up, or the FX team hoped nobody would notice... but I doubt it.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:36 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

The Experiment Model and the other one aren't the same.  Look at the arms.

Correct, but it's played by the same actress, and is assumed to be the same entity.  So why 2 different names?

Because, despite assumptions, it ain't the same entity.  One has arms the right way round and nae horns, t'other one has wrong arms and horns.  Ergo, they're different beasties.

So if you're right Sam, then what is the difference between "The Experiment Model" and "The Experiment"?  All we know 100 percent is that The Experiment Model killed 2 people and the The Experiment vomited BOB.

For me the name difference can be attributed to: 1) the "actress" is actually a model for the CGI creation that is Experiment. But why later drop model from Experiment Model? 2) Because Sam is also correct, perhaps the Models are what become of the poor folks that swallow moth frogs. Or, the creature in part 1 was modeled after Experiment. She was created by . . . ?

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Posted : 07/08/2017 10:59 pm
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Who knew "Naido" had a name?   And why does she have a name? 

Also one of the guys in the fight club/super-arm-wrestling club was credited as "muddy farmer".  

 

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Posted : 08/08/2017 6:59 am
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Who knew "Naido" had a name?   And why does she have a name? 

Also one of the guys in the fight club/super-arm-wrestling club was credited as "muddy farmer".  

 

Muddy was the guy who explained the rules to Mr C.  Good choice of name, though.

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Posted : 08/08/2017 7:01 am
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Posted by: kdawg68

Who knew "Naido" had a name?   And why does she have a name? 

Also one of the guys in the fight club/super-arm-wrestling club was credited as "muddy farmer".  

 

Hmmm... the guy who everyone thinks is "Billy" (the one Andy talked to about the truck) was credited as "Farmer".  

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Posted : 08/08/2017 10:43 am
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Posted by: kdawg68

Who knew "Naido" had a name?   And why does she have a name? 

Also one of the guys in the fight club/super-arm-wrestling club was credited as "muddy farmer".  

 

Hmmm... the guy who everyone thinks is "Billy" (the one Andy talked to about the truck) was credited as "Farmer".  

That dude's identity has been so all over the place. 

- He asks "Anyone see Billy?"

- closed captioning listed his line as "Anyone see Bing?"

- Episode just happens to have someone named "Bing" playing at the Roadhouse

- Actual dude with truck we now think is "Billy" gets credited as "Farmer"

 

Meanwhile, Lynch is doodling spotted dogs with tree horns.  

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Posted : 08/08/2017 10:51 am
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Posted by: kdawg68

Who knew "Naido" had a name?   And why does she have a name? 

Also one of the guys in the fight club/super-arm-wrestling club was credited as "muddy farmer".  

 

Hmmm... the guy who everyone thinks is "Billy" (the one Andy talked to about the truck) was credited as "Farmer".  

I have him as simply Muddy. And they're portrayed by two different actors. The farmer we've seen in part 7 talking with Andy is played by Edward "Ted" Dowling, Muddy in part 13 is played by Frank Collison

Also, it's not the farmer the one who asks "Anyone seen Billy". That's Lynch's son Riley, who's credited as Bing and also played at the Roadhouse with his band Trouble.

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Posted : 08/08/2017 1:27 pm
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