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(@roberto_bella)
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Damn. Those cold, dead eyes.  And poor Ray, but I guess it was inevitable.

The contrast by Kyle M. between Bad Coop and Dougie is remarkable. When I'm watching him as Dougie it almost feels like a different actor. Which is obviously the point, but still so impressive.

It seems pretty clear that Dougie is locked in place until, if ever, Bad Coop is toast. I'm going to try not to mind anymore since Bad Coop is riveting.   

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Posted : 06/08/2017 9:15 pm
(@matthew_gladney)
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Agreed. MacLachlan is a master with these roles.

 

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Posted : 06/08/2017 9:16 pm
(@agent-cooper)
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That scene was the best in the season so far IMO. Back to starting position. My arm hurts when its down there. Lol.

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Posted : 06/08/2017 9:40 pm
 Jack
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When BOB inhabits a host such as Leland Palmer, he can take over the host's personality whenever he chooses.  For instance, when Maddie dies, BOB seems to choose to stay in Leland until, like the Wizard of Oz, water from a sprinkler system seems to flush him out.

When BOB inhabits a host which isn't human, but is a Black Lodge dopperganger, he seems to have otherworldy powers such as recovering from gunshots (with the help of Woodsmen and Electricians), and having extraordinary strength.

This makes me wonder why BOB would ever choose to inhabit a mortal host rather than an immortal host.  Maybe BOB broke the rules.  MIKE chose a travelling shoe salesman, I don't think MIKE would choose to inhabit a doppelganger.  So many questions!

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Posted : 06/08/2017 9:46 pm
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(@caoimhin)
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Posted by: Roberto Bella

 

It seems pretty clear that Dougie is locked in place until, if ever, Bad Coop is toast. I'm going to try not to mind anymore since Bad Coop is riveting.   

You may be correct but I don't think so, because even Mike has asked Coop to "wake up!" I think it will be something else. Don't ask me what though. Haha. 

Agree that Mr C is riveting. How about that face-imploding punch?!

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Posted : 06/08/2017 9:52 pm
(@eric-from-sweden)
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Posted by: Brian Snoke

That scene was the best in the season so far IMO. Back to starting position. My arm hurts when its down there. Lol.

It sure was one of the best scenes. But speaking of that scene, I had hoped that Frank Collison had been cast as Bob in this new season, not just some random bad guy.

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Posted : 06/08/2017 10:30 pm
(@annieblackburn)
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IDK how many of you saw the FB Live with Kyle MacLachlan when he said something to the effect of how he was influenced by a reptiles to represent DoppelDale's physical moves.  In other words, he's very still until he needs to strike.  It's really interesting knowing that, because it really proves to be true!  He also said that he worked with David to find Bad Coop's look.  They played with hair, clothes, etc. Basically, they experimented with different looks until they found things they were just wrong or off.  Everything about this character is just wrong or off! I love it!   I've never been this afraid of any character he's ever played!

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Posted : 06/08/2017 10:46 pm
(@mj_gilbert)
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That I found myself root for DarkDale in the wrestling match is one of the more awful things I have felt recently.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 1:07 am
(@moonchild)
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I just loved how MrC and Coop were depicted in this episode

on one side you have super evil "ill break your arm and punch your face in and proceed to kill everyone else in the way" Mr C....can this guy get any eviler wow

on the other side you have super sweet and extremely good Coop who with a massage can defeat any enemy and hes so so dumb but so good nobody wants to harm him anymore

such ying and yang opposites....cant wait for the final battle...well....if we ll ever get one I mean

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Posted : 07/08/2017 1:14 am
(@murat_erol_ozkan)
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Yeah, some aspects of Cooper seen in Mr. C(or Richard) are not always bad, and necessary, like the fire, its depends on the articulation, how it realizes itself in its end etc.(whether this becomes black or not).  Remember agent Cooper when he first came to twin peaks (before he got seduced by the town and Laura) that could just read through people and situations right away....Mr. C/Richard aspects are sometimes needed, to abstract and see through a situation(tear out from it, gain some freedom), this is just for wrong ends articulated badly, how it engenders the law/state of things is criminal, using the power to 'read people', not be swayed by them, but reduce them etc., used to leech off of it, etc., doesnt go back to rationality/justice, etc....

Also not all aspects of Dougie are always good....who is he going to save when he cannot even play catch, tear himself out of his passivity to move, etc.? Now the hero is in with a criminal mafia....he is simply immersed and controlled by people like Mr. C, and was demanding that Sinclair thank him repeatedly and was clearly enjoying it...

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Posted : 07/08/2017 2:19 am
(@fishinthepercolator)
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Posted by: Jack

When BOB inhabits a host such as Leland Palmer, he can take over the host's personality whenever he chooses.  For instance, when Maddie dies, BOB seems to choose to stay in Leland until, like the Wizard of Oz, water from a sprinkler system seems to flush him out.

When BOB inhabits a host which isn't human, but is a Black Lodge dopperganger, he seems to have otherworldy powers such as recovering from gunshots (with the help of Woodsmen and Electricians), and having extraordinary strength.

This makes me wonder why BOB would ever choose to inhabit a mortal host rather than an immortal host.  Maybe BOB broke the rules.  MIKE chose a travelling shoe salesman, I don't think MIKE would choose to inhabit a doppelganger.  So many questions!

Well to be fair they introduced doppelgangers only in the last episode of the original show. And back then they weren't able to film and put together all the episodes before the show aired, so they had to make a lot of adjustments on the fly. They probably didn't even have in mind the Black Lodge how we know it until late in the show, let alone doppelgangers.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 3:00 am
(@fishinthepercolator)
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By the way, and maybe there's something that I've missed, but I haven't found completely convincing the fact that Ray just gave Cooper the coordinates. He knew Mr. C wanted those and couldn't afford to kill Ray until he had obtained them. Basically his life depended on him keeping the coordinates, I just don't understand why he simply gave them to him.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 4:39 am
(@ranmacmh)
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Posted by: Fishinthepercolator

By the way, and maybe there's something that I've missed, but I haven't found completely convincing the fact that Ray just gave Cooper the coordinates. He knew Mr. C wanted those and couldn't afford to kill Ray until he had obtained them. Basically his life depended on him keeping the coordinates, I just don't understand why he simply gave them to him.

It could be the last ditch trap.  He wasn't totally sure that Mr. C was dead, he knew he got help, and the last thing we saw before this episode was him talking to Phillip on the phone.  If Phillip already set the Warden/Ray trap in motion, whatever Ray gave him on paper could be plan B.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 4:49 am
(@karen_paynter)
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert

That I found myself root for DarkDale in the wrestling match is one of the more awful things I have felt recently.

His opponent was a smug creep, to put it mildly. Karma came for him.

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Posted : 07/08/2017 4:57 am
(@karen_paynter)
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Posted by: Jack

When BOB inhabits a host such as Leland Palmer, he can take over the host's personality whenever he chooses.  For instance, when Maddie dies, BOB seems to choose to stay in Leland until, like the Wizard of Oz, water from a sprinkler system seems to flush him out.

When BOB inhabits a host which isn't human, but is a Black Lodge dopperganger, he seems to have otherworldy powers such as recovering from gunshots (with the help of Woodsmen and Electricians), and having extraordinary strength.

This makes me wonder why BOB would ever choose to inhabit a mortal host rather than an immortal host.  Maybe BOB broke the rules.  MIKE chose a travelling shoe salesman, I don't think MIKE would choose to inhabit a doppelganger.  So many questions!

No, he caused Leland to kill himself by ramming his head into the wall. He left when Leland was dying.

Choosing to inhabit mortals: to experience causing human suffering, and also the human physical pleasures. To Laura: "I want to taste through your mouth."

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Posted : 07/08/2017 5:06 am
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