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Posted by: citizenkeith

Here's my transcript of the scene. I'm sure it's not perfect, but here you go:

A: What did she say?

C: Audrey, we been over this

A: Tell me!

C: Audrey, stop it

A: I feel like I’m somewhere else. Have you ever had that feeling, Charlie?

C: No.

A: Like I’m somewhere else and like I’m somebody else. Have you ever felt that?

C: No. I always feel like myself. And it may not always be the best feeling. 

A: Well I’m not sure who I am but I’m not me.

C: This is Existentialism 1-0-1.

A: Oh, fuck you! I’m serious! Who am i supposed to trust but myself? And I don’t even know who I am. So what the fuck am I supposed to do?

C: You’re supposed to go to the Roadhouse and see if Billy is there.

A: I guess. Is it far?

C: C’mon Audrey, you know where it is. If I didn’t know better, I’d swear you were on drugs.

A: Just where is it???

C: I’m going to take you there. Now, are you going to stop playing games or do I have to enter Story 2?

A: What story is that, Charlie? (pause) Is that the story of the little girl who lived on the lake? (pause) Is it?

(Audrey sits down)

C: You’re the one that wanted to go. Now you’re looking like you wanna stay.

A: I wanna stay and I wanna go. I wanna do both. Which will it be, Charlie? Hmm? Which one would you be? Charlie, help me. Is it Ghostwood here?

Ok cool, somebody else thinks it's story "two". Nobody replied to my first post earlier. I'm not American so not sure on their pronunciation. Even after listening again now, it sounded like "Do I have to endure story 2"  to me. All the people saying "end your story too" - neither the "end" nor "too" parts make much sense to me.  If it's what citizenkeith and I heard it as, I think Audrey's reaction makes more sense.

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 9:30 pm
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Posted by: kdawg68

I'm pretty convinced everything in this episode happened earlier; meaning that Audrey's conversation with Charlie that we saw in "13" actually precedes what we saw in "12". It would make sense since they both seemed even more exasperated with each other in "12" than they did in "13".  I mean sure, there was tension last night, and a vague threat to "end your story", but compared to the verbal assaults Audrey unleashed at Charlie in the other conversation, essentially calling him less than a man, this was nothing.  

There does seem to be a "shutter island" feel to all of this.  Like walking you through the motions will maybe help you remember what really happened, who you really are, and where you really are.  We can only imagine he's gotten his little coat and accompanied her to the Roadhouse 5,000x "looking for Billy". 

 

 

Just one problem with the coma theory-- and I'm probably taking this too literally-- if she'd been in a coma ever since the bank vault, how would she know the youth named Billy, who was a contemporary of her own child?  Or do you think the name "Billy" is a false flag, just a common name?

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 9:38 pm
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Sorry, on American TV, the closed captioning has it written as "End your story".  It also sounds as end your story to my ear as well.

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 9:40 pm
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I was thinking the same thing about Billy.

Were there any Billys, Bills, Wills, or Williams in the original 2 seasons?

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 9:41 pm
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Posted by: Luke McMahon
Posted by: citizenkeith

Here's my transcript of the scene. I'm sure it's not perfect, but here you go:

A: What did she say?

C: Audrey, we been over this

A: Tell me!

C: Audrey, stop it

A: I feel like I’m somewhere else. Have you ever had that feeling, Charlie?

C: No.

A: Like I’m somewhere else and like I’m somebody else. Have you ever felt that?

C: No. I always feel like myself. And it may not always be the best feeling. 

A: Well I’m not sure who I am but I’m not me.

C: This is Existentialism 1-0-1.

A: Oh, fuck you! I’m serious! Who am i supposed to trust but myself? And I don’t even know who I am. So what the fuck am I supposed to do?

C: You’re supposed to go to the Roadhouse and see if Billy is there.

A: I guess. Is it far?

C: C’mon Audrey, you know where it is. If I didn’t know better, I’d swear you were on drugs.

A: Just where is it???

C: I’m going to take you there. Now, are you going to stop playing games or do I have to enter Story 2?

A: What story is that, Charlie? (pause) Is that the story of the little girl who lived on the lake? (pause) Is it?

(Audrey sits down)

C: You’re the one that wanted to go. Now you’re looking like you wanna stay.

A: I wanna stay and I wanna go. I wanna do both. Which will it be, Charlie? Hmm? Which one would you be? Charlie, help me. Is it Ghostwood here?

Ok cool, somebody else thinks it's story "two". Nobody replied to my first post earlier. I'm not American so not sure on their pronunciation. Even after listening again now, it sounded like "Do I have to endure story 2"  to me. All the people saying "end your story too" - neither the "end" nor "too" parts make much sense to me.  If it's what citizenkeith and I heard it as, I think Audrey's reaction makes more sense.

"enDOrr", "end YORE"

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 9:46 pm
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Posted by: Annie Blackburn
Posted by: kdawg68

I'm pretty convinced everything in this episode happened earlier; meaning that Audrey's conversation with Charlie that we saw in "13" actually precedes what we saw in "12". It would make sense since they both seemed even more exasperated with each other in "12" than they did in "13".  I mean sure, there was tension last night, and a vague threat to "end your story", but compared to the verbal assaults Audrey unleashed at Charlie in the other conversation, essentially calling him less than a man, this was nothing.  

There does seem to be a "shutter island" feel to all of this.  Like walking you through the motions will maybe help you remember what really happened, who you really are, and where you really are.  We can only imagine he's gotten his little coat and accompanied her to the Roadhouse 5,000x "looking for Billy". 

 

 

Just one problem with the coma theory-- and I'm probably taking this too literally-- if she'd been in a coma ever since the bank vault, how would she know the youth named Billy, who was a contemporary of her own child?  Or do you think the name "Billy" is a false flag, just a common name?

Hearing hospital staff or family talk around the hospital bed:

They take my hand

And ask me to pull through. 

A voice I know says, "Dear,

he probably can't hear you."

Coming up for air...

Air, Ben Folds Five

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 9:54 pm
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Posted by: Karen
Posted by: Luke McMahon
Posted by: citizenkeith

Here's my transcript of the scene. I'm sure it's not perfect, but here you go:

A: What did she say?

C: Audrey, we been over this

A: Tell me!

C: Audrey, stop it

A: I feel like I’m somewhere else. Have you ever had that feeling, Charlie?

C: No.

A: Like I’m somewhere else and like I’m somebody else. Have you ever felt that?

C: No. I always feel like myself. And it may not always be the best feeling. 

A: Well I’m not sure who I am but I’m not me.

C: This is Existentialism 1-0-1.

A: Oh, fuck you! I’m serious! Who am i supposed to trust but myself? And I don’t even know who I am. So what the fuck am I supposed to do?

C: You’re supposed to go to the Roadhouse and see if Billy is there.

A: I guess. Is it far?

C: C’mon Audrey, you know where it is. If I didn’t know better, I’d swear you were on drugs.

A: Just where is it???

C: I’m going to take you there. Now, are you going to stop playing games or do I have to enter Story 2?

A: What story is that, Charlie? (pause) Is that the story of the little girl who lived on the lake? (pause) Is it?

(Audrey sits down)

C: You’re the one that wanted to go. Now you’re looking like you wanna stay.

A: I wanna stay and I wanna go. I wanna do both. Which will it be, Charlie? Hmm? Which one would you be? Charlie, help me. Is it Ghostwood here?

Ok cool, somebody else thinks it's story "two". Nobody replied to my first post earlier. I'm not American so not sure on their pronunciation. Even after listening again now, it sounded like "Do I have to endure story 2"  to me. All the people saying "end your story too" - neither the "end" nor "too" parts make much sense to me.  If it's what citizenkeith and I heard it as, I think Audrey's reaction makes more sense.

"enDOrr", "end YORE"

Ah ok, in Australia we say "endyure". Thanks for clearing that up. 

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 10:12 pm
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I think "Coma" is too easy. Sorry, I know many of you support that idea and have many, many good thoughts on this whole Audrey business. I think it's simpler, and deviously more complex at the same time. Ben could not risk the 'Great Northern' by having his reputation spoiled with Audrey's knowledge of his prior deeds. Ben is now paying "Charlie" to keep Audrey in a stupor. Oh Ben, what have you done mister!

 

 

 

 

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 11:00 pm
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Agreed, David lynch doesn't do cliches like she's in a coma & it isn't actually happening.

Several people know of Ben's past actions, and Bob is not possessing him, that doesn't fit his character.

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 11:04 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy
Posted by: Karen
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Gender is an oppressive social construct, not a state of mind. I've never heard of anyone stating that they 'feel' like a certain gender without basing it on patriarchal stereotypes.

Stereotypes and rigid gender-roles are oppressive. How someone feels about themself is not. Being a transgender person I know the subject very well.

That's an interesting statement.  Genuinely; I am not being facetious, ironic or anything other than straightforward.  The reason I say so is because, if I were to say I felt like any gender at all, it is definitely male.  That's not to say I always conform to what society considers male, but rather I've never even considered myself to be anything other than what I am.

Bless you and your gendered feelings, DepSamTx. You are just fine exactly as you are.

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 11:12 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy
Posted by: Karen
Posted by: groovy-llama-fan

Gender is an oppressive social construct, not a state of mind. I've never heard of anyone stating that they 'feel' like a certain gender without basing it on patriarchal stereotypes.

Stereotypes and rigid gender-roles are oppressive. How someone feels about themself is not. Being a transgender person I know the subject very well.

That's an interesting statement.  Genuinely; I am not being facetious, ironic or anything other than straightforward.  The reason I say so is because, if I were to say I felt like any gender at all, it is definitely male.  That's not to say I always conform to what society considers male, but rather I've never even considered myself to be anything other than what I am.

Bless you and your gendered feelings, DepSamTx. You are just fine exactly as you are.

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 11:12 pm
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No clown comics here! 🙂

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 11:13 pm
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Posted by: Karen

Agreed, David lynch doesn't do cliches like she's in a coma & it isn't actually happening.

Several people know of Ben's past actions, and Bob is not possessing him, that doesn't fit his character.

Hm, having a hard time remembering who is still alive that knows about One-Eyed Jack's. Harry? Hawk? Denise? Anyway I thought Audrey and Ben came to 'uncertain' terms about it and he decided after the bank bomb to use the situation to his advantage... man doing evil for the sake of evil. OR.... Ben hired Charlie to keep her in this state; out of LOVE... to protect her from the truths that she is horribly disfigured, was raped by Mr. C and gave birth to more evil. 

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 11:25 pm
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Whether coma or psychosis, I agree that Audrey is incapacitated somehow and the scenes with her in them, are her own mental fabrications:

This would explain why in ep 12,  Sheriff Truman didn't seek out Richard's mother when he was missing, and likely why Ben Horne didn't mention Richard's mother. (Richard is unlikely to be Johnny's child; in that case, Ben wouldn't have mentioned Richard's never having had any father.)

As others mentioned, the decor is old in Audrey & Charlie's scene. But not only is it just old, it lacks all modern touches - the phone isn't digital, and Charlie doesn't have any modern equipment to help with his paperwork.

Meanwhile, Audrey doesn't seem to have matured past high school; I seem to recall (?) a very impassioned and insulting speech that she made in the old series that was similar to the speech she gave to Charlie in ep 12. (I can't recall to whom; I'm thinking Bobby.)

Then, in ep 13, Charlie seems to have forgotten that he was reluctant to help her, but then threatens to end her story - that's when she starts complaining of derealization, depersonalization, and she forgets about her mission to seek Billy (and where the Roadhouse is.) This seems to suggest to me that details of her old life are slipping away, replaced by the details of old movies and dreams. But some of the other details are bizarre; a teenager's idea of what adult life/drama is like.

Some of the sequences seem to tie into 'reality', such as the stolen truck. "Dreams sometimes harken to reality," Audrey says. The conversation between Tina and Charlie seemed to be Tina filling Charlie in on the details of Richard's involvement in the theft (which would be a good reason that Charlie would swear not to tell Audrey anything.)

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 12:58 am
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Posted by: Zack Sisson
Posted by: Karen

"Do you want me to end your story?" To quote Mr. Dodgson,"curiouser and curiouser."

"You're supposed to go to the Road House to see if Billy is there." A: "Where is it?" 

Also, did Audrey say "This isn't Ghostwood" ?

That's the only line that really made my ears perk up and I could not understand what she was saying other than the word "Ghostwood".

...did anyone else catch what she said?

"This reminds me of Ghostwood..."

Dougie mumbles a lot so I watch with captions on now.

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 1:00 am
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