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(@the-woodsman)
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  • Don't forget that Gerrard sold shoes. Circle brand shoes. Yes. Full circle shoes. 
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Posted : 01/08/2017 12:53 pm
(@mad-sweeney)
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Posted by: Chris Gorgon

I'd post an Albert pic if I wasn't on mobile.

I think you're all having a Hawk "is it about the bunny?" moment that Lynch and Frost would find hilarious.

Oh, but Hawk was wrong. It IS about the bunny (or the jack rabbit), after all. 

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Posted : 01/08/2017 12:54 pm
(@nick1218)
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Dougie is long dead. People are just calling him Dougie

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Posted : 01/08/2017 12:56 pm
(@mad-sweeney)
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Posted by: Nick Fugazzy

Dougie is long dead. People are just calling him Dougie

Exactly. He calls himself Dougie Jones, and everyone else around him calls him Dougie. So do most of us. We know it's Cooper, though.

Has Sonny Jim addressed him as anything? I would suspect, "dad," but don't recall if it's come up.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 12:58 pm
(@chris_gorgon)
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Here's where I want to post that old Nike commercial with Michael Jordan and Spike Lee as Mars Blackmon.

"It's gotta be the shoes!"
"No, Mars."

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Posted : 01/08/2017 2:12 pm
(@clayeich1)
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Posted by: James M Sweeney
Posted by: Nick Fugazzy

Dougie is long dead. People are just calling him Dougie

Exactly. He calls himself Dougie Jones, and everyone else around him calls him Dougie. So do most of us. We know it's Cooper, though.

Has Sonny Jim addressed him as anything? I would suspect, "dad," but don't recall if it's come up.

Sonny Jim called him "Dad" while they were playing with the Clapper, turning the lights on and off.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 7:08 pm
(@paudris)
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Posted by: Zigzag

"Hawk . . . something is missing"

Cooper returned from the lodges without his shoes. He is missing something. Lynch wouldn't have bothered showing Cooper going out with his shoes popping off unless it was important.

Lynch repeatedly shows us that nothing makes Dougie know the man he is. Not coffee, not badges, not a suit, and not sex.

"you never really know a man until you stand in his shoes and walk around in them." - To Kill a Mockingbird

Dougie needs Cooper's shoes to know the man he is.

Not sure where to post this because it connects dots from more than one part.

"Harry, our job is simple: break the code, solve the crime.".

Zigzag... Fella, you did your job so well. Great observation!

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Posted : 01/08/2017 7:10 pm
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Posted by: Zigzag

"Hawk . . . something is missing"

Cooper returned from the lodges without his shoes. He is missing something. Lynch wouldn't have bothered showing Cooper going out with his shoes popping off unless it was important.

Lynch repeatedly shows us that nothing makes Dougie know the man he is. Not coffee, not badges, not a suit, and not sex.

"you never really know a man until you stand in his shoes and walk around in them." - To Kill a Mockingbird

Dougie needs Cooper's shoes to know the man he is.

Not sure where to post this because it connects dots from more than one part.

This is so ridiculous, it might actually be right.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 7:13 pm
(@chris_gorgon)
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Well, maybe I'm wrong.  But I think Cooper's struggle to find himself again is a kind of spiritual quest, and the resolution of that will have little to do with footwear.  

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Posted : 01/08/2017 10:02 pm
(@caleb_tanner)
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Posted by: Caleb Tanner

I thought we already learned what was missing was those three pages from Laura's diary that Hawk found in the men's room door

And no one's going back into that crazy place for a dumb ole pair of shoes.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 10:21 pm
(@arcadesonfire)
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I keep going back to the gym at the Great Northern--the fact  that it's  near an A pitch, i.e., 430 hz. Also, a friend says that him (heard by Ben Horne and Beverly) is the same as we hear during the Giant scene at the very beginning of Season 2. (I've gotta check that myself.) Anyway, if a pair of Coop's old shoes show up at the Great Northern, well then, we'll have our coordinates.

Great thread!!  

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Posted : 02/08/2017 12:25 am
(@arcadesonfire)
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Posted by: Chris Gorgon

Well, maybe I'm wrong.  But I think Cooper's struggle to find himself again is a kind of spiritual quest, and the resolution of that will have little to do with footwear.  

Just coffee instead. 

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Posted : 02/08/2017 12:28 am
(@damien_crowley)
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Part 17 is titled "The Past Dictates the Future" and  Part 18 is "What is your name?".

Hoping I'm wrong, but we might not see Coop till the last episode. 

 

 

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Posted : 02/08/2017 12:47 am
(@zigzag)
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Posted by: Caleb Tanner
Posted by: Caleb Tanner

I thought we already learned what was missing was those three pages from Laura's diary that Hawk found in the men's room door

And no one's going back into that crazy place for a dumb ole pair of shoes.

Correct. Lynch is showing us that people are converging on the lodges for different reasons, and none involve shoes. But whoever arrives there will find a pair of shoes.

As for Hawk finding some of Laura's missing diary pages, I'm not sure The Log is aware of events outside of the lodges unless Margaret shares them with it. And I don't think she knows about Laura's diary.

Also, the Nez Perce manufacturer logo probably has nothing to do with his heritage, like the Washington Redskins logo. No offense, but I think you say, a "red herring".

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Posted : 02/08/2017 5:13 am
(@steve_moss)
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The Secret History states that Hawk is  a Nez Perce.

 

 

 

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Posted : 02/08/2017 5:27 am
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