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Dale, for just a moment?

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(@mj_gilbert)
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In the restaurant with the brothers, eating cherry pie, the music slows. And there is Dale. And one imagines that, if the old lady from the casino hadn't shown up, he might have held on.

Just for a moment. In the eyes.

 

And can I just say, Kyle MacLachlan is an amazing actor. Such control!

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 10:10 pm
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(@mozman68)
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"Damn good pie..."

 

I thought he was awakening right then...

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 10:17 pm
(@caoimhin)
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What a great scene that was! I kept thinking that Coop seeing Candie was going to inspire more inside him. Guess we'll find out next week. 

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 10:19 pm
(@todd_george)
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I totally agree

I so wanted the episode to end with Dale being back.....

I am almost resigned to believing that he will remain in a catotonic state as a result of having been in the lodge for so long it makes me sad ....

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 10:36 pm
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Posted by: Todd George

I totally agree

I so wanted the episode to end with Dale being back.....

I am almost resigned to believing that he will remain in a catotonic state as a result of having been in the lodge for so long it makes me sad ....

I don't think so. After I watched the first four or five episodes, it seemed to me that Lynch and Frost were using Coop to mirror how the story is being told. As Coop gets closer and closer to "waking up," or returning to Twin Peaks, the closer this season gets to the atmosphere and tone of the original seasons.  The seemingly scattered subplots, aside from the few that are discrete, are threading into the main plot/mystery in the same way. This episode seemed to be a confirmation (though the town is obviously filled with much more evil and horror at the moment - something is amiss and that something is related to Cooper). I think Coop will be back with 3 or 4 episodes remaining because they're going to need him to defeat or "battle"  what Hawk wouldn't reveal. 

That said, however, if he wakes up in the final scene of part 18 that would also make sense given the final scene of season 2. 

I'm fine with either or anything in between. 

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:05 pm
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(@pine-cone)
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MJ, Iagree with your assessment of Kyle McLachlan's performance in his dual roles as Dougie /Mr. C. Definitely award-worthy.

I noticed as the old casino woman spoke with Dougie, it appeared he was looking up past her. Anyone else notice that?

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:11 pm
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Posted by: Pine Cone

MJ, Iagree with your assessment of Kyle McLachlan's performance in his dual roles as Dougie /Mr. C. Definitely award-worthy.

I noticed as the old casino woman spoke with Dougie, it appeared he was looking up past her. Anyone else notice that?

He got that look when the piano player started playing something that wasn't upbeat. Then she walked up to thank him.

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:16 pm
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Posted by: Karen
Posted by: Pine Cone

MJ, Iagree with your assessment of Kyle McLachlan's performance in his dual roles as Dougie /Mr. C. Definitely award-worthy.

I noticed as the old casino woman spoke with Dougie, it appeared he was looking up past her. Anyone else notice that?

He got that look when the piano player started playing something that wasn't upbeat. Then she walked up to thank him.

Agree...it was the song that triggered the look...and they immediately cut to Angelo playing the piano as well.

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:19 pm
(@yambag021)
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I think if at any point he comes back in the second to last episode. 

I've abandoned the weekly "THIS IS WHEN HE COMES BACK" hope.

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:29 pm
(@silentbobni)
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The only thing that makes me think we will see the old Coop is the leaked shots from filming of him with a blonde girl who looked like Laura in Twin Peaks. That girl could now be Candie as we only saw blonde hair from behind but Kyles face.

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:34 pm
(@groofay)
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That look on Cooper's face, combined with the music and the atmosphere, was a truly beautiful moment, whether or not it was a glimpse of the real Dale Cooper (I'm inclined to agree that it was).

In any case, it did feel like we saw another step or two towards Dale as he was. 

I think, at this moment, I don't care so much about what it means, but rather that it was so damn beautifully done. Every aspect of that scene was something special.

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:35 pm
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I thought there was also an earlier moment - when he was being beckoned to the red room.  His eyes seemed to focus.

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:38 pm
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I was thinking he would be more or less fully-Dougie until the end of the season, but I'm not so sure after this episode. Something in him was definitely waking up... watch his eyes move with intelligence during the pie-eating scene. That has not happened until now with Dougie. I suspect he will be asking some questions rather than just parroting what people say very soon. He has had his intuition and luck to help him so far, hopefully he will soon regain some of his intellect.

 
Posted : 23/07/2017 11:46 pm
(@annieblackburn)
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Let's not forget that Duncan Todd told Anthony Sinclair if he weren't able to convince the Mitchum brothers to kill Dougie, that he had to.  Let's hope the brothers can convince him otherwise. The danger isn't over yet!

Maybe Dougie will once again "move like a cobra" under the new threat that's definitely coming and out Coop!

 
Posted : 24/07/2017 1:36 am
(@iban-manzano)
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I agreed that he seems to bring Dale Cooper for a while, But why? Something happens with the music. The piano player starts to play slower, but I'm not sure why this works in Dougie/Dale.

 
Posted : 24/07/2017 6:15 am
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