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Laura's "Face"

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(@bianca_christie)
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That thing that Laura P does in the Black Lodge, where she removes her face, revealing white light and one of those amazing Lynch sounds, and then replaces her face . . . .  Ideas?  Theories?  Interpretations?  Help.

 
Posted : 23/05/2017 7:01 pm
(@william_de_bruijn)
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I'd say it refers to her having reached 'heaven'. Remember 'Go the light, Leland!'? Has Laura reached the White (Light) Lodge? But then, why is her Older Dead Self sucked up into the air in 2016/2017?

 
Posted : 25/05/2017 6:05 pm
(@aaron_c_wade)
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I think there's still more to the Laura story to come. Lynch is a self-confessed fan of Laura Palmer and would probably have lots to add to her story now that she's in a place that transcends time and space. 

 
Posted : 25/05/2017 6:21 pm
(@karen_paynter)
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Her being sucked up & away I think was Bob noticing her helping Coop.
Inside her face: at the end of FWWM it seems she's communicating with an angel, and she looks happy. New TP: more will be revealed.

 
Posted : 26/05/2017 1:44 am
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I agree, it has to do with the ''White Lodge'' and the angel that we have seen before

 
Posted : 26/05/2017 4:57 am
(@captionhere)
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to go with the angel theory: perhaps she is only allowed limited time in the black lodge as a visitor from the white. when she reveals her insides she was banished

 
Posted : 26/05/2017 9:58 am
(@bianca_christie)
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Posted by: Mr Jackpots

to go with the angel theory: perhaps she is only allowed limited time in the black lodge as a visitor from the white. when she reveals her insides she was banished

That's interesting.  It did seem kind of sudden that all of a sudden she was sucked out of there, apparently against her will.  

 
Posted : 10/06/2017 11:33 pm
(@murat_erol_ozkan)
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Laura shows the light behind her face right after she tells Cooper "Im dead but I still live", there was nothing behind Laura's face/appearance but the infinite horror of the never-ending sadistic-masochistic perverse spiral that led to her death.  Laura, with her male compatriots (exemplary is the extra-Oedipal Leland Palmer), killed her face-appearance as prom queen and the hope of the community, she still lives as the reign of an extra-Oedipal-unrestricted law which dominates profit, enjoyment, knowledge, and power. Laura is alive as Mother watching over every episode (which is why she appears at the beginning as a haunting face over the trees of twin peaks and is credited at the end of episodes in which she does not appear, alpha and omega's kingdom come, the apocalypse of tyrannous power; just think about the effect she had on Bobby, she is 'what is missing' for many people), the governing spirit which survived after her bodily death, an object which people in general invest themselves in as law throughout the world.  Now here, I think what Dougie-Cooper, and some other well positioned characters have gained some abstract distance and freedom from Laura's reign of terror(while she is married to Mr. C, etc.).  Dougie-Cooper has lost Laura as an object of desire, which is why when she tries to seduce him again(and keep him trapped in the red room), she is ripped away, and Cooper is forced to witness the 'pale horse'(which death rides atop at the apocalypse), his sorrow at losing his old America/Twin Peaks.  Remember how much Cooper loved the idea of 'anywhere but Philadelphia', a genuine town and community where he could finally live, save the good 'sweetheart', etc., then discovered no such place exists after what he uncovered and after his next love affair, that twin peaks and laura herself were corrupted to the core, just like Philadelphia....

What are some clues here? Where else do we see bright white light?  We see a bright white light shining through the holes of the banging door in the 'darkened room', which we later learn is Mother threatening to come inside, the same mother that chopped up the kids trapped by the billionaire (tyrannous father) in New York.  We also see the bright light as the infinite enjoyment which sustains Becky during her car ride as she basks in the bright light from above (lauras law of enjoyment).  Becky is only happy on drugs and while engaged by trashy sexual commentary.  We also see Jacobi, who is still obsessed with screwing Laura the vamp, bask in the light after being trapped in the never ending cycle of digging out of shit with a golden shovel, then being stuck in the shit again.  Jacobi only has a brief moment of fleeting 'gold'-surplus after which he returns to the shit and dig out again.

I have a longer explanation of the dynamics of what it means for Laura to have been Mother enjoying a reign of terror for the last 25 years(while married to tyrannous father, the 'silver' Mr. C, Richard Horne, mafia of the 'Silver Mustang', arbitrary tyrannous figures, etc.), you can see this under the 'green glove' thread of episode 1 and the golden shovel thread of episode 5'.

 
Posted : 11/06/2017 12:23 am
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Nothing personal, but you're reaching way to deep. 

The white light was almost assuredly to signify "im
dead but I still live" in contrast to "Duggie" vanishing in a black light

As to what "Mother" is . . . For Laura or he doppelgänger to pull up the other doppelgänger through the ceiling, only to then have to attempt to punch in a medal doo
then go through the outlet to the box in NYC and slash
the first two people it sees with its nails after calling all the shots for the past 25 years. . .
while we'll thought out, is possible, but a stretch

Given what we've seen so far, I am thinking the "Arms" dopleganger
is the architect behind what we've see so far.

it would also make New York and the "don't die"
message connect. The Arn is going after Duggie /Cooper. . .
just like the other midget . . .





 
Posted : 14/06/2017 10:49 am
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My contention is that Laura lives as a 'de-personalized' law that people follow, a spirit of the world, as authority, not that she personally is doing it.   This is Twin Peaks, Laura Palmer, what she did changed the reality of an entire town in the first series, which is now seen in the entire world.   Notice that Laura is dead but lives, she personally exists nowhere, but is omnipresent at the same time(face over the entire screen at the beginning and credited at the end, just look at how Bobby reacts to her picture, she is a trauma that still runs deep and was never dealt with).  While Cooper, who exists, is basically dead according to spiritual authority....as soon as he appears, he is on the verge of being killed by multiple parties following "Laura's Law".......Laura's legacy is alive and well...

 
Posted : 14/06/2017 2:20 pm
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We could even say that Laura is just one imaginary manifestation of the same tyrannous law ruling the entire world, the way Cooper and people from twin peaks imagine it.  Laura's Law: vicious sadistic psychopath tearing up all conditions of decency and backing this up by brutal irrational tyranny, but we still believe she is the hometown 'sweetheart' that will bring us salvation.....

 
Posted : 14/06/2017 2:24 pm
(@murat_erol_ozkan)
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You must remember, Laura did take the ring.....

 
Posted : 14/06/2017 2:26 pm
(@murat_erol_ozkan)
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I dont think this series is just surrealist eye candy that gives us a 'kick' and is meant to lead no where, captured in a tweet and easily reintegrated; rather, the series upsets and confuses, thereby provoking an attempt to decipher it.  It is a detective show with many clues that lead to 'solving the case' which surrounds the absurd and meaningless, there are definitely complicated ways to make some kind of resolution about what is going on....

 
Posted : 14/06/2017 2:34 pm
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This de-personalization also goes some way in explaining  why someone can be possessed by "bob" or why different people appear in different bodies, different things appear in different places etc...  Reality(including our innermost core) is not consistent, fiction is reality, the red room/infinite, the crack in reality behind the curtains and how this manifests in the world, depends on what we do.  For example, if billionaire authority tries to make a big X in New York, with that kid(who had the stuff, talent to reach the red room) as live bait in order to try and take the 'electricity' coming out of the void as property, the infinite as Cooper will not be able to go to these coordinates, but will end up somewhere else across the country, etc.   Cooper as spirit-law cannot be captured by cameras, taken as property, the cameras only capture a fleeting glimpse of him before 'lauras law' kicks back in.... the cameras fail since it is infinite void/split resisting appropriation as a solid atom, it is nothing as freedom.  Cooper resists being taken as property by the ruling spirit-law, which is why even though he is just stumbling around, he is upsetting everything, making enemies everywhere because of his 'green' power, and on the verge of being killed; he resists being taken as property by the ruling power-spirit of the world..... this is a new Cooper....not the one tricked by Laura's promise of a Twin Peaks that will save us from Philadelphia....

 
Posted : 14/06/2017 3:05 pm
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Again, I dont think it was 'someone' who pulled Laura through the ceiling, but a sign of failure of her law, a rupture from within it materialized as Dougie/Cooper.  Notice Leland here, he is sitting just like Cooper was, saying 'wheres Laura?', trapped by desire for her.  Cooper sees the pale horse(death rides atop it) because his dream of Laura as sweetheart is broken, abandoned.  Once Laura's law is cracked in the world, the red room reflects this, notice how the red room is not exactly a full and consistent knowledge, as if it was controlled by 'someone' and their organizing schemes, but an inconsistent mess which reflects a range of incommensurate thoughts, positions, etc.  The dead sleazy Dougie is a counterpart to Laura's law(impotent, alongside the opposite of omnipotent husband Bob/Leland, with both aspects condensed in Richard Horne's car ride, crying/impotence to excessive power above the Oedipal law; and this condenses Laura's law outside of all bounds(including the ban on incest), hurt girl takes revenge, etc.).  Notice how Sleazy Dougie was led around by Jade and thoroughly corrupted by the 'gold atom' a promise of femininity that will bring full enjoyment and do away with 'cracks' and struggles.  Laura was trying to seduce Cooper again to keep him trapped like she has for 25 years.  Remember how Laura snaps her finger, a gesture of controlling a male, then tells Cooper, see you again in 25 years, meanwhile, her rage and terror are unleashed, this is Laura's law.   Nonetheless, this time her attempt failed this time, as it is now 'back in the house' of the giant and cooper who were trying to solve crimes

 
Posted : 14/06/2017 3:34 pm
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