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Why are there people like David Lynch?

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 4:41 am
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Because there are a number of permutations which give rise to certain personality traits, levels of intelligence and creative bent.  Simple, really.  😉

Other answer:

Dunno but I'm glad there are.

 
Posted : 07/08/2017 3:20 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Because there are a number of permutations which give rise to certain personality traits, levels of intelligence and creative bent.  Simple, really.  😉

Other answer:

Dunno but I'm glad there are.

Pure statistics.

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 12:03 am
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Ok. Is it easier to account for the Ben or Richard Hornes of the world (even using TP to add insights) OR easier to account for the David Lynchs of the world? 

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 7:09 am
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Ok. Is it easier to account for the Ben or Richard Hornes of the world (even using TP to add insights) OR easier to account for the David Lynchs of the world? 

Both.  Neither.  

Take yer pick.

Seriously, though, given the limited number of genes and scenarios any human can encounter, there is a large but finite set of traits possible, what we experts call "A fucking huge number". 😉

Given a limited set, no matter how large, any pseudo random set will throw out some repeats and there's no way of knowing which ones they will be.  You'd have to run the sequence way beyond the end of the Universe to get a handle on any hidden patterns in there, so from our perspective, it appears to be totally random.  Which means, there's always the possibility of millions of Lynches, or millions of other types.

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 7:19 am
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Ok. Which do you personally find more mysterious: Sarah Palmer or David Lynch?

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 7:23 am
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Sarah.  I understand Lynch.  I don't always understand what he's doing but we seem to share similar aesthetics.

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 7:56 am
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Because there are a number of permutations which give rise to certain personality traits, levels of intelligence and creative bent.  Simple, really.  😉

Other answer:

Dunno but I'm glad there are.

Pure statistics.

83.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 7:57 am
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Sarah.  I understand Lynch.  I don't always understand what he's doing but we seem to share similar aesthetics.

"That's weird." I think I'd find it easier to explain why Sarah would be watching a structural-materialist boxing experimental short than to explain how Lynch conceptualised and positioned it in a fragmented 18-hour TV-film.

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 8:07 am
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Nah, it's easy enough when you get going.  Not to say I could do the same but I understand the process.

Writing a story, or a song of any scope beyond "Oh baby", or conceptualizing a painting, or any other creative endeavour, or even plotting out a video game, involves a number of steps to drive the narrative forward.  With some things it may be non linear - and sometimes it's better that way - but everything has to fit together as a coherent whole.

So... Imagine the story needs a section which tells you something about what's happening, but it needs to be told in context, which, in this case, has to be about a psychically gifted woman, who suffered terrible tragedies, and as a consequence, drinks heavily, staring at but not necessarily watching television.  In my interpretation (Lodge gang telling Sarah that help is on the way, and there's a boxer involved) this would be a very logical and narratively consistent way to do it.  In fact, I can't imagine a better way.

Iain (M) Banks said that once you have the elements in place, the story almost writes itself.

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 8:18 am
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Nah, it's easy enough when you get going.  Not to say I could do the same but I understand the process.

 

Ok. Coming around to this view in real-time. Then, why are there not many more people/filmmakers like David Lynch in the world? 

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 8:55 am
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Nah, it's easy enough when you get going.  Not to say I could do the same but I understand the process.

 

Ok. Coming around to this view in real-time. Then, why are there not many more people/filmmakers like David Lynch in the world? 

Because, statistically, the odds didn't work out that way, for all the reasons given above.  It's a world of truck drivers, remember?

I said it's easy enough when you get going.  Doesn't mean it's easy for everyone.  You may as well ask why there aren't more good musicians in the world, considering most people aren't tone deaf, the skills needed to play an instrument are probably (on a simple mechanical level) no harder than driving a car, instruments are relatively inexpensive, tuition is widely available, and in many cases, free.

For some reason, most people aren't interested in being creative.  They'd rather watch telly, drink themselves stupid and play on their XBoxes.

Maybe, just maybe, if the world was reset tomorrow, we'd all be living knee deep in budding Lynches.  In such a world, the truck drivers would be king.

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 1:12 pm
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Because there are a number of permutations which give rise to certain personality traits, levels of intelligence and creative bent.  Simple, really.  😉

Other answer:

Dunno but I'm glad there are.

Pure statistics.

83.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Statistically speaking

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 3:43 pm
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Nah, it's easy enough when you get going.  Not to say I could do the same but I understand the process.

 

Ok. Coming around to this view in real-time. Then, why are there not many more people/filmmakers like David Lynch in the world? 

Who's to say there AREN'T man many more.  Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't mean they don't exist.  🙂

Additionally, before truly assessing that, you will need to operationalize/quantify "like."  Do you mean clones of DL?  Do you mean directors, producers, writers, creators, artists, white, males, adult, etc? None of these?  A combination of these?  Other?

 
Posted : 08/08/2017 3:47 pm
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More simply, Brandy F; someone that can create works like Blue Velvet, Mulholland Dr, Twin Peaks. I love film but I watch very, yrev few films and follow very few filmmaker's new works. Lynch is a favourite and not very prolific, and very easy to underestimate (very difficult to critique). So, as with Pynchon or Sam Harris or Woob, I'm intrigued & perplexed by its rarity & the sustenance I find there.  

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 3:08 am
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