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(@fulynch)
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Coop knocks on the door and expects to see Sarah. But that lady don't look nothing like Sarah. If Sarah was possessed by Judy that powerful demon could she could enchant her old form to look like somebody else. Alice Tremond has come up before in FWWM. She is always with that grandson who Jumps and wears a mask with a long pointy nose. Who is a representation of the jumping man.  Coop has just come face to face with Judy and jumping man.

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 6:00 pm
(@b-randy)
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I really want to know if you are just playing around with theories and being a bit silly (I've done it many times) or if these are actual hypotheses of which you are trying to convince us (or yourself).

I am not trying to be rude.  I am genuinely curious.

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 6:03 pm
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Plus 1, Brandy!

Didn't Cooper know about the Chalfonts and Tremonds?

He only seemed surprised that  Sarah wasn't there....

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 6:35 pm
(@fulynch)
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I read thru tons of theories and went back and did a rewatch. Some things just jumped out at me. Anton Chekhov is Russian plàywright who said this: If you say in the first chapter there is a rifle on the wall in the second or third chapter the gun must go off. If its not going to go off it shouldn't be hanging on the wall . This is known as the theory of Chekhov's gun. In that last  scene a bomb of  white positive energy goes off. Carrie Page is a tulpa with a bomb inside.  This bomb is triggered by Sarah's voice making her recall Laura's memories but something else too.

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 6:38 pm
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Didn't really answer the question.........

We are all quite aware of Chekhov's Gun.  I don't quite understand why you infer that we aren't. I think this is the part where it's starting to get insulting.

You said a while back that you are #1 Fan.  The same could be said/claimed by any one of us in this forum and probably has been claimed by many who have just as much reason to say so.

I can totally appreciate abstract hypotheses and musings.  In fact, they are one of my favorite things to engage in. I just don't understand if this is what you are doing or if you are trying to prove fact. Please advise.  Please clarify.

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 7:00 pm
(@fulynch)
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I ain't screwing with nobody. I'm just saying if you know whose in the house maybe you can know what happened to them. Lots of people think Carrie Paige is a tulpa that contains that bomb of positive white energy. To negate the great negative energy of Judy.  Judy has teleported Laura away before. But it really wasn't her that did it. The jumping man is the teleporter. He carries a slingshot to slingshot people thru time.  He has stuck Laura and coop in a time loop.  But the last time he jumps into Carrie and sets the bomb off. He finally screws himself. Lights out.

When Coop and Diane do their ritual it gets her undivided attempt tion.  Lau

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 7:29 pm
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Never did accuse you of "screwing with" anybody. Only wondering at your motives and also wondering at your lack of interaction and follow through on your own topics. I'm also curious about you come from.

I would really like to know where you came up with the "teleporter" jumping man thing.  That seems way out of left field.

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 7:46 pm
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Plus 1, Brandy!

Didn't Cooper know about the Chalfonts and Tremonds?

He only seemed surprised that  Sarah wasn't there....

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 7:51 pm
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Posted by: Julie Loader

Plus 1, Brandy!

Didn't Cooper know about the Chalfonts and Tremonds?

He only seemed surprised that  Sarah wasn't there....

He knows about one of them (I think) but I can't recall which at this moment at this moment.  Which Grandma/grandson duo was in the house that Laura (and then Donna) was bringing meals on wheels to?

 

 

(did you mean to post that twice?)

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 7:54 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher
Posted by: Julie Loader

Plus 1, Brandy!

Didn't Cooper know about the Chalfonts and Tremonds?

He only seemed surprised that  Sarah wasn't there....

He knows about one of them (I think) but I can't recall which at this moment at this moment.  Which Grandma/grandson duo was in the house that Laura (and then Donna) was bringing meals on wheels to?

 

 

(did you mean to post that twice?)

I think it was Tremond that Donna met, wasn't it? So if he knew that name, why didn't he dig more ?

No, I  didn't mean to double post.

 
Posted : 03/05/2018 8:11 pm
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I'm not sure Donna knowing = Coop knowing.  Although, the marbled rye grandmother and mini-lynch grandson were certainly members of the black lodge as per The Missing Pieces (also FWWM?), so we might expect Coop to know the name Tremond from The Real World: Black Lodge (when people stop being polite, and start getting real.  Longest season ever.)  

So, does Laura's scream maybe banish Alice Tremond to the Lodge and 25 more years later she ages into that grandmother?  or banish that whole reality to the Lodge realm?  sacrificing all involved and put Judy off for 25 more years - just to do it all again? musings...     

 
Posted : 04/05/2018 1:44 am
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

so we might expect Coop to know the name Tremond from The Real World: Black Lodge (when people stop being polite, and start getting real.  Longest season ever.)  

 

What do you mean?

 
Posted : 04/05/2018 4:34 am
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It's a bad joke comparing the Lodge waiting room to the MTV reality show Real World.  

I thought it was a funny image; those people going about their lives together.   

 
Posted : 04/05/2018 2:41 pm
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

It's a bad joke comparing the Lodge waiting room to the MTV reality show Real World.  

I thought it was a funny image; those people going about their lives together.   

I thought it was HILAROUS!

 
Posted : 04/05/2018 2:59 pm
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When Donna took Cooper to see the Tremonds, they were gone, and another middle-aged woman identified herself as the Tremond who lived there (with neither mother nor son). She gives Donna a torn out page from Laura's diary, that she and Coop read (but then Coop seems to let her keep it - my theory as to that "missing page").

I can't recall off the top of my head whether Carl says the line about two Chalfonts to Cooper or Desmond.

Regardless, we should bear in mind that the character on the show does not perhaps remember things as well as we do, if we have watched it over and over. I thought they were smart about this with how they had Cole and Albert remember the David Bowie scene. People have suggested that it was something more mysterious, but would it be realistic to suppose that they would remember that exact line of dialogue from an event that occurred 25 years ago? Cole remembering in a dream, etc. actually struck me as more realistic. 

So the names Tremond and Chalfont not registering for Cooper seems realistic to me in a similar way. Donna, on the other hand, I would expect to remember the name Tremond...

 
Posted : 04/05/2018 3:37 pm
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