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(@julie_loader)
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

And one more for Julie's question

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Thank you so much! 

Is that the top of someone elses head behind the lab coat guy, or just equipment? 

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Posted : 12/01/2018 10:53 pm
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Posted by: Cæmeron Crain
Posted by: Julie Loader
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Doesn't Tammy say that there were some images captured of shadowy figures, or something like that?

My bigger question is still what happened to the guards and so on. 

Fireman removed them?

My problem with that is if fireman is so powerful,  why couldn't he just swipe the screen and get Cooper to where he needs to be?

Guess there'd be no 3rd season lol

Nah, I prefer the idea that Tracy was deployed by Mr C. to do some sex magic (without, of course, knowing the end she would come to), though that doesn't feel quite right, either.

I don't think the Fireman is that powerful, or perhaps it is just a certain ethos of limited interference. I don't know, but I think about how in season 2 he tells Cooper that he will need a doctor in contrast to the Woodsmen showing up for Mr C. And, as I have noted elsewhere, I have reservations about how to read the Fireman's intentions as well. 

 

The fireman could have been a lot more helpful than he was if he was all powerful.  

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Posted : 12/01/2018 10:55 pm
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Joseph, what do you think the light in the owl mirror was?

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Posted : 12/01/2018 10:56 pm
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Posted by: Julie Loader

Joseph, what do you think the light in the owl mirror was?

I just watched again.  You notice how the camera isn't perfectly steady; it sorta sways left/right and a little up/down.  So we see that reflected light source right at the edge of the mirror, but I don't think the light dims and brightens, I just think it sways in and out of the right angle for reflection; when we get half of it reflected it seems dim.  It's there alright, but I wouldn't know what to make of it past that.  Also Sarah's tortured wails kinda captures the attention. 

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Posted : 13/01/2018 1:34 am
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty
Posted by: Julie Loader

Joseph, what do you think the light in the owl mirror was?

I just watched again.  You notice how the camera isn't perfectly steady; it sorta sways left/right and a little up/down.  So we see that reflected light source right at the edge of the mirror, but I don't think the light dims and brightens, I just think it sways in and out of the right angle for reflection; when we get half of it reflected it seems dim.  It's there alright, but I wouldn't know what to make of it past that.  Also Sarah's tortured wails kinda captures the attention. 

I don't think the wails at the beginning are Sarah. I think Judy/Judy inside Sarah.

I know Lynch left that light in shot on purpose.  He would have reshot it if we weren't meant to see it.

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Posted : 13/01/2018 4:02 am Joseph McMurty liked
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher
Posted by: Chris Flackett

The arm has a doppleganger - why? Which of the other 'supernatural' forces have dopplegangers and how do we know which one we're seeing? Mike, for example - in his strange black clothes that he we had not seen him wear before this series? How do we know he's not a doppleganger? What was the arm doppleganger's plan - trap Cooper in the mansion room where he'd get killed by Mother? 

I was under the impression that the arm doppel was trying to push Cooper out since it caused all that chaos and made him basically "fall" out.

Oh yeah, definitely, but why? Was it aiming for him to become Dougie so Mr C could arrange for him to be disposed of without a struggle? (Ike the spike learnt the hard way that the old reflexes were still there, though). Or was the point to trap Coop in the mansion in the sea - literally to force him out of so-called 'regular existence'? Does the mansion room world (for lack of a better name) operate on a different, more rarified level to even the Red Room? It is true Coop only ended up re-entering the world as Dougie with Naido's and American Girl's assistance. 

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Posted : 13/01/2018 5:04 am
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Do you think we're supposed to read much into the fact American Girl is played by the same actress that played Ronette Pulaski? Or was it just a nice little meta moment for the fans?

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Posted : 13/01/2018 5:12 am
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Posted by: Julie Loader
Posted by: Joseph McMurty

And one more for Julie's question

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Thank you so much! 

Is that the top of someone elses head behind the lab coat guy, or just equipment? 

It's a kind of big plug in the glass with many wires : 

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Posted : 13/01/2018 5:47 am
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Posted by: Chris Flackett

Do you think we're supposed to read much into the fact American Girl is played by the same actress that played Ronette Pulaski? Or was it just a nice little meta moment for the fans?

Why in the credits is she "The American Girl" and not "The American Woman" ?

(like "the French Woman" with Gordon in part 12 (younger than the american girl)).

I don't remember where I've read some weeks or months ago  that as she is speaking backwards, she's connected to the Red Room, and in a timeline screwed by Cooper, Laura is still alive, she was not in the woods with Leo, Jacques and Ronette, she was not in the train car and Ronette was maybe murdered by Leland.

So she was a girl when she died and she's still a girl in the purple or the red room. 

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Posted : 13/01/2018 6:21 am Joseph McMurty, Brandy Fisher and Chris Flackett liked
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Posted by: Lucas Bracci
Posted by: Julie Loader
Posted by: Joseph McMurty

And one more for Julie's question

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Thank you so much! 

Is that the top of someone elses head behind the lab coat guy, or just equipment? 

It's a kind of big plug in the glass with many wires : 

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Thanks!

I  thought so but wanted to be sure ☺

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Posted : 13/01/2018 12:38 pm
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Posted by: Lucas Bracci
Posted by: Chris Flackett

Do you think we're supposed to read much into the fact American Girl is played by the same actress that played Ronette Pulaski? Or was it just a nice little meta moment for the fans?

Why in the credits is she "The American Girl" and not "The American Woman" ?

(like "the French Woman" with Gordon in part 12 (younger than the american girl)).

I don't remember where I've read some weeks or months ago  that as she is speaking backwards, she's connected to the Red Room, and in a timeline screwed by Cooper, Laura is still alive, she was not in the woods with Leo, Jacques and Ronette, she was not in the train car and Ronette was maybe murdered by Leland.

So she was a girl when she died and she's still a girl in the purple or the red room. 

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Hmm but why not call her Ronette? 

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Posted : 13/01/2018 12:41 pm
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Posted by: Julie Loader

Hmm but why not call her Ronette? 

Maybe it was not her first name in another timeline.

This is from Reddit (and it's true, I've noticed that when I've watched it) :

In Richard Beymer's film, Behind The Red Curtains, included in the special features of the blu-ray box, they're setting up a scene in the Red Room with Sheryl Lee and Kyle MacLachlan. When they call a person to the set, they call them as the character that is being played. In this instance, Sheryl Lee was announced as Carrie Page.

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Posted : 13/01/2018 1:36 pm
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Posted by: Julie Loader
Posted by: Lucas Bracci
Posted by: Chris Flackett

Do you think we're supposed to read much into the fact American Girl is played by the same actress that played Ronette Pulaski? Or was it just a nice little meta moment for the fans?

Why in the credits is she "The American Girl" and not "The American Woman" ?

(like "the French Woman" with Gordon in part 12 (younger than the american girl)).

I don't remember where I've read some weeks or months ago  that as she is speaking backwards, she's connected to the Red Room, and in a timeline screwed by Cooper, Laura is still alive, she was not in the woods with Leo, Jacques and Ronette, she was not in the train car and Ronette was maybe murdered by Leland.

So she was a girl when she died and she's still a girl in the purple or the red room. 

1515842483-Americangirl.jpg
 

Hmm but why not call her Ronette? 

Maybe its because in that place in that time, she is not Ronette. She is the reflection of the possible tragic story of any teenage girl from Anywhere, USA.

Just a thought.

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Posted : 13/01/2018 2:47 pm Joseph McMurty and Lucas Bracci liked
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Could be Ronettes Tulpa/Doppelganger 

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Posted : 13/01/2018 4:38 pm Brandy Fisher liked
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Ok

What if the scene where Coopand Diane have sex is before the curtain call scene!

That's why they ask each other  "is it really you?"

And " do you remember everything? "

And that's why  the kiss in the sheriff station is so passionate.  They've fallen in love! 

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Posted : 13/01/2018 4:43 pm
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