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Just watching season one again.

Just before going to Lauras funeral Bobby is standing in front of a depiction of Jesus on the cross....... "sometimes my arms bend back "?

In season 3 we see the fireman send a golden orb with a depoction of Laura in it down to earth. She has become a saviour? 

Yes, we hear Cooper in series one think out loud that "sometimes my arms bend back " after learning Lauras arms were restrained in two places, but could it have also been a hint about  what she became?

In season one Cooper dreams about what happens in the red room. I believe that Laura was a tulpa in that scene. We only learn about all that in season 3.

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Posted : 27/10/2017 5:07 am Joseph McMurty liked
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P.S. Could this thread be moved to the new general discussion  thread, please?

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Posted : 27/10/2017 7:18 am
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Consider it done.

This is the water and this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within.

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Posted : 27/10/2017 1:19 pm
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Posted by: Pieter Dom

Consider it done.

Thanks, Pieter!

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Posted : 27/10/2017 3:22 pm
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Sarahs grieving moans in S1 E1 are the same as  her moans in the finale. 

Also the photo frame of  Laura is smashed in both.

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Posted : 27/10/2017 6:37 pm
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

That's neat.

Here's another new observation.  Stop me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a picture of Eisenhower on the wall at the Las Vegas FBI office?  And just why the hell would that be?

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It reminds me of Harry Truman's portrait on Sheriff Harry Truman's wall. Back-to-back presidents; side-by-side law enforcement groups. 

But ive been thinking about that scene where that agent yells, "How many times do I have to tell YOU that finding people is what we DO in the FBI!!" Perhaps it's Lynch yelling at the audience to remind us what the show is: a show without answers--or some kind of meta message. ??

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Posted : 27/10/2017 7:00 pm Joseph McMurty liked
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Posted by: Julie Loader

Just watching season one again.

Just before going to Lauras funeral Bobby is standing in front of a depiction of Jesus on the cross....... "sometimes my arms bend back "?

In season 3 we see the fireman send a golden orb with a depoction of Laura in it down to earth. She has become a saviour? 

Yes, we hear Cooper in series one think out loud that "sometimes my arms bend back " after learning Lauras arms were restrained in two places, but could it have also been a hint about  what she became?

In season one Cooper dreams about what happens in the red room. I believe that Laura was a tulpa in that scene. We only learn about all that in season 3.

Interesting stuff! "Laura is the one" after all. I had not made a connection to Christ sacrificed on the cross. 

Also on Christian themes, I'm not sure if I wrote yet results of my brief research on the white horse in Revelations...

Though "the pale horse of death" obviously symbolized death, the Greek word for "pale" there actually meant a yellowish/greenish color. For the WHITE horse among the four horsemen of the apocalypse, there is debate over what it meant!!

The Greek word used in the original writing for what the white horse brought is debated. Some translators say the word meant "pestilence" to readers at the time. Others say the word meant "victory"!! So did that horse represent pestilence or victory for the Palmers??

Maybe Frost did go into this translation stuff and Lynch loved the dual nature/mystery of it. Maybe they didn't know/intend this at all. That white horse will remain one of my favorite mysteries. 

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Posted : 27/10/2017 7:16 pm Julie Loader liked
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Posted by: Julie Loader

Just watching season one again.

Just before going to Lauras funeral Bobby is standing in front of a depiction of Jesus on the cross....... "sometimes my arms bend back "?

In season 3 we see the fireman send a golden orb with a depoction of Laura in it down to earth. She has become a saviour? 

Yes, we hear Cooper in series one think out loud that "sometimes my arms bend back " after learning Lauras arms were restrained in two places, but could it have also been a hint about  what she became?

In season one Cooper dreams about what happens in the red room. I believe that Laura was a tulpa in that scene. We only learn about all that in season 3.

I've always felt like there's more to "Sometimes my arms bend back".  I know Albert suggests it's the ropes, but I think that's just a red herring and there's a deeper significance. 

There's always a false clue (or to say, 2 of everything) - Mike and Bobby are not Mike and BOB.  There's another Linda, from the trailer park. This whole Billy and Billy Zane vexation.  Richard Horne and Richard at the end.  More than happenstance.

Jesus Christ pose is a good thought.  Now that's something really interesting to think about. 

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Posted : 27/10/2017 10:53 pm Julie Loader liked
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I see the fireman as a God  and he puts Lauras image into an orb made out of golden particles that eminate from within him. He sends it down to earth after seeing what happened with the a-bomb and Bob. So I see Laura as being some kind of angelic being sent to help against evil.

Mike saw the face of God and changed........

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Posted : 27/10/2017 11:39 pm Joseph McMurty liked
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umpteenth round through:

1. Mr. C has corn leftover at the diner with Daria, Jack and Ray. 

2.  I think when Albert tells Gordon about slipping the name of the man that gets killed, Gordon is "listening" after he says, "Albert, Albert, Albert...".  The music just makes me think there's some sort of inquisition going on and then the music abruptly stops as thought that thing that was being sought wasn't present.  Ok - it's a stretch, but check it out.  Right after the Yrev prison scene. I thought it interesting to think about the nature of Gordon's hearing enhancement. 

3. When Andy and Lucy debate chairs, Lucy really loves the beige chair (and she is wearing red plaid), Andy really loves the red chair (and he is wearing beige uniform).  They love each other, so that's nice.

4.  The whole theory that Cole looks at us, the viewers, in his Monica Belucci dream is then strengthened by part 8 when the Fireman looks right at us, the viewers, for a solid 30 seconds while the electricity post is ringing, before he sees the BOB event.  We happened, perhaps. 

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Posted : 20/11/2017 2:07 am Brandy Fisher liked
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When Cooper is at Judy's diner in the finale he very clearly only disarms two of the three men, he only has two of their guns as he walks behind the counter. The second man, whom he shoots, looks like he's about to draw but we never see his gun and we never see Cooper take it. Yet Cooper places three guns into the deep fryer (while keeping his own). I cannot think of how this could be significant but it's eerie.

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Posted : 20/11/2017 11:59 am Joseph McMurty liked
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Is Audrey a tulpa? I know this had been discussed before in other threads but it seemed to get abandoned in favor of mental hospital theories etc. Her second monologue about how she doesn't feel like herself is too similar to Diane's final monologue to not be a significant clue to her outcome. The Final Dossier sheds some new light but after my rewatch I am more apt to think she's a tulpa.

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Posted : 20/11/2017 12:02 pm Joseph McMurty liked
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Posted by: dopplearb

Is Audrey a tulpa? I know this had been discussed before in other threads but it seemed to get abandoned in favor of mental hospital theories etc. Her second monologue about how she doesn't feel like herself is too similar to Diane's final monologue to not be a significant clue to her outcome. The Final Dossier sheds some new light but after my rewatch I am more apt to think she's a tulpa.

I go back and forth on this as well.

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Posted : 20/11/2017 3:42 pm
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Is Audrey a tulpa? I know this had been discussed before in other threads but it seemed to get abandoned in favor of mental hospital theories etc. Her second monologue about how she doesn't feel like herself is too similar to Diane's final monologue to not be a significant clue to her outcome. The Final Dossier sheds some new light but after my rewatch I am more apt to think she's a tulpa.

Hi dopplearb,

Well, as delineated in Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier, Audrey:

  • Awoke from her coma after three and a half weeks
  • Discovered she was pregnant
  • Opened a hair and beauty salon (recall that one of the last images we see of Audrey is her staring into what looks like a make-up mirror =:-O)
  • Kept a framed photo of her Special Agent on the wall of her salon
  • Married her accountant
  • During her marriage there were " public scenes, heavy drinking, verbal abuse, and sexual infidelity" - all on Audrey's part
  • Four years before Twin Peaks: the Return she closed the salon and vanished from public life   =:-O

From that last bullet point, I could understand if she had been replace by a dopplearb... uh, I mean, a doppelganger.  But, what makes you think she might be a tulpa?

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That's strange - even for Cooper

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Posted : 21/11/2017 1:52 pm Brandy Fisher liked
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What really gets me thinking she might be a tulpa is her having a very similar realization of "i don't feel like me" to tulpa Diane's "I'm not me".

Tulpa Diane also led what appeared to be an involved life, keeping an apartment, having boyfriends, patronizing bars, indulging in alcohol etc. Nothing anyone saw of Diane made her appear to be a tulpa until she said "i'm not me".

The final scene we get of Audrey does indicate a hallucination or alternate reality of a different sort but I'm curious about the significance of her dialogue specifically when she says she doesn't feel like herself.

Richard Horne disappears when he dies. He seems to evaporate. Perhaps this is the power of the death stone but perhaps if his mother Audrey is a tulpa then he is half tulpa half doppelgänger. (I'm curious if his fingerprints are half backwards).

I don't really think Mr. C made Audrey into a tulpa the day after her enters Twin Peaks and before he impregnated her, I'm just musing.

In other tulpa musings I've been wondering about Sonny Jim, who is half tulpa (unless Janey-E is also a tulpa in which case Sonny Jim would be full tulpa). What happens when he dies? Does he half disappear?

 

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