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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

 Mostly I'm wondering what Lynch intended with that presentation.  

Lol like with EVERY other presentation.

 
Posted : 07/04/2018 5:39 pm
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

 Mostly I'm wondering what Lynch intended with that presentation.  

Lol like with EVERY other presentation.

Mostly I'm wondering why Lynch felt compelled to make Dumbland but that's a different topic for a different time ?

 
Posted : 09/04/2018 2:41 am
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

I was thinking while at work, in the 'yrev' scene it's easy to focus on the 'yrev' and be satisfied that you've found Waldo.  But.  Wasn't Mr. C acting super bizarre the whole time?  He's never before or since been that inarticulate and stiff and incoherent.  Was it just him being entirely unable to mimic Coop, as awkward as that smile, or was he being influenced... By what I don't know.  Gordon's presence, or...  But it was totally uniquely strange - repeating himself and senseless logic. 

It puts me in mind of Dale waking up in the Great Northern at the very end of Season 2: "I need to brush my teeth." The same stiffness, sterness and otherness.

At the end of The Secret History, Coop goes to see Briggs, who realises that "something's wrong." I always took the tip off to be something Dopple Coop said, but what if it was more the mannerisms of how he was speaking?

Mr C is supposed to be the shadow of our Coop, the opposite of him. Maybe Mr C can't physically mimic his double, because they are opposites seperated from each other and yet to be reconciled, so they can only share a sort of middle ground as it were. The personalities however have become seperate and inimitable. 

 
Posted : 09/04/2018 3:52 am
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Posted by: Chris Flackett
Posted by: Joseph McMurty

I was thinking while at work, in the 'yrev' scene it's easy to focus on the 'yrev' and be satisfied that you've found Waldo.  But.  Wasn't Mr. C acting super bizarre the whole time?  He's never before or since been that inarticulate and stiff and incoherent.  Was it just him being entirely unable to mimic Coop, as awkward as that smile, or was he being influenced... By what I don't know.  Gordon's presence, or...  But it was totally uniquely strange - repeating himself and senseless logic. 

It puts me in mind of Dale waking up in the Great Northern at the very end of Season 2: "I need to brush my teeth." The same stiffness, sterness and otherness.

At the end of The Secret History, Coop goes to see Briggs, who realises that "something's wrong." I always took the tip off to be something Dopple Coop said, but what if it was more the mannerisms of how he was speaking?

Mr C is supposed to be the shadow of our Coop, the opposite of him. Maybe Mr C can't physically mimic his double, because they are opposites seperated from each other and yet to be reconciled, so they can only share a sort of middle ground as it were. The personalities however have become seperate and inimitable. 

Well, he was like that all the time, wasn't he?  But yes, a little more robotic in the gaol scene. I just thought it was because  Cole would pick up wrong words/mannerisms  so he tried to keep everything concise. But in the end that made him more obvious, didn't it!

 
Posted : 09/04/2018 3:01 pm
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I believe he was more robotic though in the jail scene because he was trying to mimic Good Coop and it was a physical impossibilty due to the nature of what Mr C is compared to Good Coop.

 
Posted : 09/04/2018 3:52 pm
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Accidentally saying a word backwards isn't a common slip either.  Maybe he was under a great strain trying to imitate his opposite.  I suppose Dougie trying to act like Mr.C also wouldn't work out so well. 

 
Posted : 09/04/2018 9:45 pm
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

Accidentally saying a word backwards isn't a common slip either.  Maybe he was under a great strain trying to imitate his opposite.  I suppose Dougie trying to act like Mr.C also wouldn't work out so well. 

Yeah, with the backwards word it was like the mask slipped a little with the strain and revealed a truth about his supernatural origin (Mark Frost himself has noted the prevalence of backward speaking in lodge entities, hinting that the 119 girl had a touch of the lodge about her)

 
Posted : 09/04/2018 11:15 pm
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80mg Lodge beans... 

Or maybe the drugs were to stifle the lodge already in her

 
Posted : 10/04/2018 1:00 am
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Same guy? 

 

 
Posted : 12/04/2018 10:20 pm
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Sorry, trying to attach pics....

 
Posted : 12/04/2018 10:21 pm
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Can't seem to get pics to attach....

I took photos of the dead guy in Carries house and the thug credited as Tommy that Janey E pays. The dead guy gets no credit, which I  thought was unusual .

Same guy?

 
Posted : 12/04/2018 10:54 pm
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Allow me to assist,

I've heard this theory before but to be honest, a definitive yes or a no wouldn't really billow my knickers too much.   A nice touch though.     

 
Posted : 12/04/2018 11:22 pm
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Posted by: Joseph McMurty

Allow me to assist,

I've heard this theory before but to be honest, a definitive yes or a no wouldn't really billow my knickers too much.   A nice touch though.     

Thank you! 

Isn't it usual for Lynch to credit non talking actors? 

If it was the same guy,  it would link Carrie to Las Vegas.

 
Posted : 13/04/2018 12:49 am
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I seem to recall reading that the actor said it wasn't him in Carrie's house, but I'd have to do some work to try and track that down. 

Either way, I remain unsure what to do with the fact there was a dead guy in her house.

 
Posted : 13/04/2018 12:44 pm
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The dead guy in Carrie's home is not Ronnie Gene Blevins. So far, he has been unidentified. Would love for him to step forward.

 
Posted : 13/04/2018 3:02 pm
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