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Lodger

So the Laura Palmer murder was to have taken place in 1989.

Cooper vanished into the Black Lodge that year also... his doppelgänger being the last person to see General Garland Briggs alive on 03/27/1989, just before midnight.  

Cooper is supposed to have been gone in the black lodge for "25 years" (perhaps an approximation) which would make it 2014.

The dossier that Tammy Preston was tasked by Gordon Cole to review in The Secret History of Twin Peaks was recovered from a crime scene on 7/17/2016.

So does anyone have a clear idea what year this current show is taking place in.  Have I missed a clear answer?

 

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Posted : 05/06/2017 5:18 pm
Detective

ISTR the show is more or less current with here and now, maybe a year behind our time.

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Posted : 05/06/2017 5:30 pm
Town Visitor

I look for things in the background for timeframe. One of Dougie's debt bookies was using an Android phone. And the Jeep wrangler in part 3 was a 2015 model. 

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Posted : 05/06/2017 5:55 pm
RR Diner Patron

I posted this question earlier. Some versions of the Laura Palmer diary have the events taking place in 1990. And how about the movie Fire Walk With Me, what is the timeline there? Maybe we could all be working together to compose a timeline (and 'locationline') like was done back in 1989-1990-1991-1992? 

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Posted : 05/06/2017 6:02 pm
Lodger
Posted by: William De Bruijn

I posted this question earlier. Some versions of the Laura Palmer diary have the events taking place in 1990. And how about the movie Fire Walk With Me, what is the timeline there? Maybe we could all be working together to compose a timeline (and 'locationline') like was done back in 1989-1990-1991-1992? 

I missed your earlier post. Thank you!  I would like this.  In The Secret History of Twin Peaks, the explosion in the bank (last episode of second season) is set as March 27, 1989... so I guess the doppelgänger went right out of that bathroom and off to see Briggs the same evening.  

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Posted : 05/06/2017 6:13 pm
Lodger

Well... It seems that there is an extensive timeline here on this wiki.  But I'm still unclear if the events we are seeing take place before or after the discovery of the dossier.

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Posted : 05/06/2017 6:21 pm
RR Diner Patron

In S3E4 timecode around 26:00 Bobby recalls the day: Cooper comes to see Major Briggs who thereafter (the next day) allegedly dies in a fire. Lit by EvilDoppelDale who wants to eradicate anything that has to do with the White Lodge (that Briggs had claimed to have seen/visited)?

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Posted : 05/06/2017 6:58 pm
Roadhouse Regular

Just noticed this from part 3....if it's taking place during the foreclosure/sub-prime crisis that would be 2007-2010....yep, more confusion....

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Posted : 09/06/2017 7:36 pm
Roadhouse Regular
Posted by: Mark Chamberlain Stevens

Just noticed this from part 3....if it's taking place during the foreclosure/sub-prime crisis that would be 2007-2010....yep, more confusion....

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Just ran the scene again...the whole area is rife with foreclosures-every street Jade turns into has three or four......and, of course, DL made sure none of the cars have registration tags with the year on them....

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Posted : 09/06/2017 8:10 pm
Roadhouse Regular

The timeline is definitely messed up, either intentionally or by mistake. Probably by mistake. 

In Fire Walk With Me, apparently it's 1989 when Phillip Jeffries walks into the FBI office. Then Agent Desmond goes missing and Agent Cooper gets sent to investigate. He finds nothing, then it says "1 Year Later" and we see Laura Palmber walking along, so that would have been 1990, even though apparently she died in 1989. 

And with The Return, it's supposed to be 25 years later, which would make it either 2014 or 2015, but the dossier in Mark Frost's book, which seems to have been done before the events of The Return, is dated 2016. 

The date confusions of Seasons 1 & 2 and FWWM can be explained by too many writers being involved and Lynch & Frost being absent for much of it. The date confusions in The Return and Mark Frost's book can be explained by Lynch and Frost coming to the project a bit too late, or it taking too long to develop. Ideally, it would have been written in 2013, filmed and set in 2014, and broadcast in 2015...but it took them longer. 

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Posted : 10/06/2017 3:27 am
RR Diner Patron

I do like the idea that Evil Coop is in  2015 and Dougies world is in 2003...during the house market collapse.

The eyeless lady flipped the switch on top of the mauve room and the electrical portal switched numbers from 15 to 3.

Dougies world looks dated so it could be true...but it could be totally wrong.

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Posted : 10/06/2017 3:48 am 1stDragonarse liked
RR Diner Patron

'15' = 2015 and '3' = 2003? Original idea to muse over! But why not '03' then? And the foreclosure crisis preceded the Lehman brothers fall of September 2008, so was in 2006/2007 right? I believe 2007 was the time of the 'for sale signs' peak?

But the combination of 2:53 and 15 -> 3 dóes sound a bit like a mismatch 'non existent' situation.

I think it is best to treat the 25 years Lodges-opening frequency (can we ever be sure as to the exact 'I'll see you again in 25 years' timecode, seeing the permanent 'is it future or is it past' state in the Red Room?) in a loose manner. In FWWM it says 'One Year Later' before Coop enters Twin Peaks so the Philip-Jeffries-in-Philly scene could have been 1988, but the film came out in 1992. So could we treat the whole 1988 (remember Teresa Banks?) - 1992 period as the last 'window of opportunity' period? This would make 2013 - 2017 the current Age of Opening. With 2:53 (of which day? March 27th 1989+25=March 27th 2014?) at the center. The dossier in Mark Frost's book 'Secret History' was 'recovered on 7-17-2016 from a crime scene that is still under active investigation'.  But when was the crime comitted?

Time to do some more reading and watching in the weekend.

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Posted : 10/06/2017 5:50 am
Deputy

Original TP show, it was a year off from real-world time. 1990 in TP world it was '89.

Fire Walk With Me

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Posted : 11/06/2017 5:03 am
RR Diner Patron

Yep, and the Twin Peaks timeline wiki  http://twinpeaks.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline mentions Jeffries dissappearing in Buenos Aires in 1987. In the Philly scene Gordon Cole introduces him as 'the long-lost Phillip Jeffries'. Where exactly do we place the Jeffries-in-Philadephia scene in the timeline?

- 1987: Jeffries dissappears in Buenos Aires 

- 1988: Philadelphia scene? Teresa Banks murdered. Chet Desmond dissappears

- 1989: Dale Cooper to Twin Peaks

Now back to 2017 (2014): episode 6 coming up

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Posted : 11/06/2017 6:07 am
Owl

Gordon mentions Jeffries had been gone for damn near two years. So that would make it 1989. Also Jeffries mumbles february 1989 in that scene in the missing pieces.

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