I think I've figured how Steven's suicide fits in the final episode/Laura's abduction  

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I`ll go direct to the point, without previous explanations once I think that most of Twin Peaks fans are familiarized with transcendental subjects.
My personal background is Espiritismo, ( scientifically recognized), Umbanda, Ramatis, astral projection mainly, but also some Theosophy, Shamanism, Hermes Trimegisto, Buddhism, entheogens, quantum physics, etc.

I guess there may be users here who know are familiar with Rosicrucianism and Theosophy ..... so I`ll go direct to the point

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My theory is that Judy does not have enough power to do whatever she wants. Lynch, as an experimented Astral traveler sure knows that for entities of the astral plane to  physically interfere  into the physical dimensions, the availability of  etheric energies such as ectoplasm and bioplasm are needed. Notice that  I`ve said to manifest and interfere, not just to make themselves visible to Mediuns with clairvoyance ( once for it, only being present in the astral counterpart of a given physical place,  with the same vibrational pattern of thoughts and emotions is enough). 

 Laura was abducted to another timeline or parallel dimension, so it is different from Doug Coup being inspired by Mike through visions( I mean clairvoyance, not visions during dreams). In other words, it requires ectoplasm and more precisely bioplasm, and those two are only available on organic beings living with a DNA in our physical dimension, and a dead body has lots of it ( together with all the organic matter of the forest) and not ``being used `` anymore.  

So my opinion is that the place Steven killed himself was somehow very close to the place Laura disappears, and that he has supplied Judy with enough energy for ``her`` to manifest and interfere.

 Ectoplasm and Bioplasm are also more available on Mediuns of Physical effects, but on mediuns as a whole, and I think that it is not a coincidence, that Carl lives close to the place, and that Mark Frost himself goes there to tell that he heard shoots. Remember that Carl could see the boy`s soul ascending, and that he is a key character once he was in serving in White sands during the nuclear test. Remember that the Tremonds\Chalfonts had manifested on Carl`s Trailer back in FWWM, on Palmer`s house ( Sarah also is a medium of clairvoyance and incorporation, Laura a natural born astral traveler, and Leland an incorporation medium) and close to Harold Smith`s house. People that experience some degree of social fobia, generally are people that are sensible to surrounding energies, miasmas and thought-forms (Tulpa on Buddhism), and that due to it, avoid leaving their personal space. So Harold could be also a medium providing ectoplasm and bioplasm to the Chalmonts ( In real life enormous amounts are necessary for materializations, but obviously Lynch took some artistic freedom to portrait this ideas).  It is also important to notice that Mountain ridges, points on heights accumulate/attracts energies, so Peaks, pyramids and similar shapes and places are more plausible to supply this kind of energies ( feng shui explains it).

 

At this point you might be asking why a Brazilian thinks that Lynch knows all these things.

 

The answer is in the first and second episodes, when that Wave Condensation Glass Box, at the top of a building, in a city located at the Delta of a river ( with lots of organic matter in decomposition ), is somehow provided with energy to manifest an entity, but lacks the energy that attracts bad intentioned spirits, the sexual energy ( purely physical, without real love and respect involved).  This shows that Lynch knows how dirty kink sex attracts bad vibrations, and that ectoplasm is necessary for entities to physically interfere in the physical dimensions.  

Notice that Coop, when turning to Richard Coop ( half Mr.C half Coop), makes sex with Diane in a Motel, with her memories of being raped by Mr. C ( that appears to be rising inside Coop during that scene), and that this seems to be what really transported them to that reality ( or how the series represent, to that Dream/microverse) of Judy .    

 

 

obs> Lynch at some points gave some clues that he knows that the astral plane is a different plane, and not a different dimension (dimensions are always  Physical, no matter the level of density of a given dimension in total of 54 dimensions ),  but we could see during `` The Return`` that he not always differentiated spiritual planes (such as the astral) from physical dimensions, and this can also be perceived on The Search for the Zone blog, where he simplifies the explanations, on purpose ( I guess).

 

 

obs 2> As for Sarah's house being inviting to the black lodge entities and Judy, an important point is her state of mind after loosing her only daughter, and to the abusive consumption of alcohol, that just increases her depression, and then her vibrational pattern, attracting what already wants to be there, and giving it ways to control and parasite her

Edit> When I say Bioplasm or Bioplasma, I am referring to a specific variety of etheric energy, co related to ectoplasm.  I am letting it clear because it is a relatively new word used by Mediuns writing of Espiritsmo and Quantum Physics, and not a product that can be bought on the internet that is  a combination of minerals, that I`ve never heard before and that has just appeared in a brief research   

One last observation, which is off topic...... It would be much nicer, if instead of Freddie, the green glove guy, Bob was hit by Nadine`s golden shovel.  that would complete another arch of 25 years ago anticipated idea. That would show purpose for her being so strong ..... she is also connected do James, so that would not be a problem to make her fit there...it would also give Doctor Jacoby presence in the third season, a purpose, and there would be no need to bring an outsider with a green Glover to Deux Ex Machina the story ( is there any reference to what his green gloves is related in real life  ?) 

Just saying, but it would be cool if somehow Big Ed could see some woodsman appearing close to the woods in the backyard of his gas farm/convenience store, and then, after being  stared by one, and maybe hit, but not killed, he runs to the city, and meets Nadine halfway, that before being told what happened to him, carrying her golden shovel, informs him that James is in jail creating the plot for both of them to be present during thae battle.

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Posted : 14/09/2017 6:51 am MoonChild, Lynn Watson, ella and 4 people liked
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That's a really excellent theory, Renan. That hadn't occurred to me and you may be right about several of these points. Freddie is a bit of an odd spot in the storyline for me as well, I had to just chalk it up to Twin Peaks quirk and roll with it.

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Posted : 14/09/2017 7:09 am Michael Ozymandias liked
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I don't quite follow all of this, but enough to be highly intrigued. Astral projection is definitely something to be considered as a framework for talking about all of this, and it fits in with the Thelema subplot in The Secret History of Twin Peaks--I assume that you've read that? If not, you'd find it useful.

The Roadhouse seems like it would be a fantastic source of bioplasm....? Thinking of all those people doing that popular drug or drugs, the girl with the horrific rash, and Richard's activities there--and I wonder if there could be a connection to the Audrey subplot, as she goes there, that includes astral projection.

Also as alluded to in Cooper's autobiography, the barely mentioned activities he went through during his youthful travels in other cultures could have certainly included astral projection.

What about fires as a source of bioplasm? Would the remains be powerful? And all the car accidents?

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Posted : 14/09/2017 7:27 am Michael Ozymandias liked
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I don't quite follow all of this, but enough to be highly intrigued. Astral projection is definitely something to be considered as a framework for talking about all of this, and it fits in with the Thelema subplot in The Secret History of Twin Peaks--I assume that you've read that? If not, you'd find it useful.

The Roadhouse seems like it would be a fantastic source of bioplasm....? Thinking of all those people doing that popular drug or drugs, the girl with the horrific rash, and Richard's activities there--and I wonder if there could be a connection to the Audrey subplot, as she goes there, that includes astral projection.

Also as alluded to in Cooper's autobiography, the barely mentioned activities he went through during his youthful travels in other cultures could have certainly included astral projection.

What about fires as a source of bioplasm? Would the remains be powerful? And all the car accidents?

Hi cyndeewillow, I have not read The Secret Stories of Twin peaks ( yet), but I will try to read this specific subplot. Thanks !!!

As for the RoadHouse, it is important to mention that bioplasm and ectoplasm are energies that are more then necessary for us to be living inside our physical bodies, in fact everyone has it, the point is that mediuns exceeds this default amount, and end up providing it ( on special conditions) for manifestation (the conditions are so specific that this is why it is rare and just commonly is manipulated on serious spiritual healing practices). What the road house could have in large amounts, is bad thoughtforms, miasmas and vibration patterns, due to all the feelings transiting in the place, the consumption of alcohol and recreative drugs.  If I had to point one specific place where it is available, this place would be the Great Northern, that is close to a waterfall, that literally has potential to generate electric energy as an hydroelectric plant.  Lets remember that on season 2, Josie ( after her death) somehow semi-materialize between Ben Horn`s room and the main lobby ( Ben says something to her when the camera is fading, and Pete is looking close to the fireplace and also notices her ( fire is normally used to summon, but I still need to study it to know its effects).

 

What I find interesting, is the usage of corn as an important symbol. I`ve seen an explanation here in this forum ( I think) stating why Corn was used as an important aspect of the story, first I thought that corn was the symbol for etheric-astral energy, or telluric energy, but then I remembered that on Brazilian Umbanda white magic ( for good purposes, if it is not for good purposes it is not called Umbanda, once its not considered to be the real alkemical knowledge brought by mediuns from the souls of first nation natives and African slaves) ...well, but then I`ve remembered that corn is an important element of its astral-physical spells related to cure, but I could not make this connection yet, once I don't know how it intrinsically works between astral plane and physical world. ( alcohol for instance when thrown in the ground, has the capacity of fixating the intent and thoughts of the spell-healing-cure in the water ( whose crystals and structure are under influence of thoughts ), while alcohol, being highly volatile, has the capacity to transmit the vibration into the air, and also to clean and dismantle bad energies from those present at the healing activity.

 

Car accidents may not be related, instead, I think that that scene of Bobby talking to the fat oldwoman and her niece ( oddly vomiting), may be related to that scene of the French woman that was with Gordon in the  Montana Hotel, that took so long to leave the room after Albert arrives, and that Gordon`s explanation mentions the daughter of her sister, or something like this is `` missing ``, which may very probably be another code talking such as blue rose was in the first minutes of FWWM.

 

Audrey has no clear explanation, Lynch said it recently...I mean, he refused to even start any explanation or hint, just saying that it is vague on purpose, so people can fulfil her story by themselves, just imagining the best possible end for her.

I know that there are those who believe that the Asian girl in the roadhouse who cries after being pulled out of her table is Audrey, but I thought if somehow, she could  be Laura after being ``unkilled``.  The black lodge tends to turn girls into Asians ( Diane- Naido ), so what if the girl being  pulled out of her place`` and that shouts in the end of the episode ( you know that there is people synchronizing episodes, and realizing that they are connected) is somehow Laura in another dimension or a reflex of her?

  

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Posted : 14/09/2017 8:15 am cyndeewillow liked
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Where Steven kills himself is near a populated area. So much so a guy out walking his dog shows up. Where Laura is with Cooper seems more remote. 

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Posted : 14/09/2017 9:36 am
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Where Steven kills himself is near a populated area. So much so a guy out walking his dog shows up. Where Laura is with Cooper seems more remote. 

We dont know for how long they are walking, and I think that is quite interesting to note that Carl needs a Van to go to the city, and that the guy walking with the dog is  Mark Frost, that could have appeared as a minor character during the whole series, but  somehow appears in a scene that '' has no connection to anything important to the series''. As if it was a hint, to pay attention to it

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Posted : 14/09/2017 5:10 pm
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I always thought that the golden shovels should be used in the final conflict.  I like that better than Freddie, and his green glove. 

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Posted : 14/09/2017 5:45 pm Renan De Melo and cyndeewillow liked
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Two things - Firstly, the roadhouse has a lot of emotional energy of various sorts expended by the humans in it. People there often have transcendental experiences, brought about by the strong emotions they experience there. This imbues it with emotional energy and makes it easy to access the astral pane there. Thus, it serves as a place that the giant/fireman can manifest (although only visually to some, like Renan stated). But it may also be a point of contention that's often battled over, since many "dark" energies are also expended there.

Which brings me to the 2nd thing - The Roadhouse lies on the edge of reality. (Venues like this often have a surrealistic quality to the for the reasons stated above). Audrey is the dweller on the thresh hold.  In the Richard/Linda world she's locked up for being "crazy". (A more realistic style 2017 world would do exactly that to someone who knew about their other life as Audrey Horne or who tried to get to a place that supposedly doesn't exist). Also of note - We're shown Audrey's burgeoning transcendental abilities in the previous seasons. Because of this ability and due to her comatose experience, she is able to get to the Roadhouse, although she doesn't consciously understand how that's possible.

And Lastly - THIS IS ASTOUNDINGLY FANTASTIC!! Ty Renan. I had been arriving at some of these conclusions as well, but you sussed them out and explained them better than I ever could. Thank you sooo much!!

PS - Is that Richard's Car we see Mr C with in Episode 2?

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Posted : 14/09/2017 5:53 pm Renan De Melo liked
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Cooper loses Laura only a short walk from the light at Sparkwood & 21st.

Also, is that the tree in Laura's Diary?

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Posted : 14/09/2017 5:58 pm
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I always thought that the golden shovels should be used in the final conflict.  I like that better than Freddie, and his green glove. 

I think that the golden shovels shoving out of the shit are a direct coded reference to alchemy, which transforms base matter to gold. It's more of a spiritual process than a material one or it can be both. There is a gal named Gisela on the Garmonbozia you tube channel who writes extensively about alchemy in TP who has interesting insights on that topic. Jacoby wants people to shovel themselves out of the shit--it seems like a process of awakening, although a rather clownish one. But yeah it would have been fun to tie them into that scene in the sheriff's.

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Posted : 14/09/2017 6:19 pm buttercup liked
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I have read about that theory.  It definitely increases the appeal to have that tie into the finale. 

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Posted : 14/09/2017 6:21 pm
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Posted by: Renan De Melo

 

 

 

I know that there are those who believe that the Asian girl in the roadhouse who cries after being pulled out of her table is Audrey, but I thought if somehow, she could  be Laura after being ``unkilled``.  The black lodge tends to turn girls into Asians ( Diane- Naido ), so what if the girl being  pulled out of her place`` and that shouts in the end of the episode ( you know that there is people synchronizing episodes, and realizing that they are connected) is somehow Laura in another dimension or a reflex of her?

  

I believe people synced up Ruby crawling on the floor to Dougie crawling toward the electrical socket before he stuck the fork in it. Do you have any thoughts on that? 

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Posted : 14/09/2017 6:25 pm
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The Corn represents the children. They are the crop. The Children of TP are more and more diseased with each generation. A disease that started with Laura. She was patient Zero. This inner corruption is evidenced over and over gain. Hawk tells Truman that a diseased crop is needed to bring the Black Fire. (Perhaps, one of these diseased children was needed to form the proper type of ectoplasm?) Stephen has the disease BAD. We're told he used to be good, and can see where he maybe might have once been. But it has festered and fermented in Stephen, and been accelerated and exacerbated by his drug use, just as it was in Laura.

And I really do think that's the tree where Laura gave herself over to Bob in her diary, which gives it it's own significance.

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Posted : 14/09/2017 6:31 pm Myn0k liked
buttercup
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There certainly are a lot of young people who appear progressively more and more "diseased" living in Twin Peaks. 

 

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Posted : 14/09/2017 6:57 pm Michael Ozymandias liked
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So are you saying Lynch and Frost wrote a character specifically to have him kill himself, to create the space for Laura and  power for Judy to vanish in?

would that be why Alicia (😍) heard  and saw the vortex 

Ok, but why would someone who could rip someone's throuat out already  need a junkie to kill himself to get the power she needs?

 

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. . . we're not gonna talk about Judy . .

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