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(@b-randy)
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I noticed something today after watching 17 then 18 then 16 (don't judge me).

The first scene of 16 where Richard and Mr. C are driving to the rock (where Richard eventually gets fried) is freakishly similar to some of the scene of Carrie and Dale driving to Twin Peaks from Odessa. The stance and focus that Mr C & Dale have, the weird looks and awkwardness of Richard & Carrie..... they were very reminiscent of each other.

This could be purely coincidental or it could be me making more out of something that is only barely there. I'm hoping somebody else has some input on this.

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Posted : 19/03/2018 8:35 pm Chris Flackett liked
(@caemeron)
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That's interesting. The big thing that stuck with me was Mr. C saying to Richard, "We'll talk on the way" - and then when we see them driving they don't talk at all. LOL, David Lynch, LOL

I don't know what to make of a similarity between those scenes, other than to suggest it amounts to something about Lynch's style. Much like these shots of the dark road illuminated only by headlights always put me in mind of Lost Highway. 

On the other hand, I guess I could incorporate this into my position that the Cooper of Part 18 has reincorporated his doppelganger...

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Posted : 19/03/2018 9:03 pm Brandy Fisher liked
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Posted by: Cæmeron Crain

That's interesting. The big thing that stuck with me was Mr. C saying to Richard, "We'll talk on the way" - and then when we see them driving they don't talk at all. LOL, David Lynch, LOL

I don't know what to make of a similarity between those scenes, other than to suggest it amounts to something about Lynch's style. Much like these shots of the dark road illuminated only by headlights always put me in mind of Lost Highway. 

On the other hand, I guess I could incorporate this into my position that the Cooper of Part 18 has reincorporated his doppelganger...

If you get a chance, watch those 2 scenes reasonably back to back and let me know what you think.  I would really, really like somebody else's input on this.

It's not just the long, quiet, dark driving scenes.  I fully expect those from Lynch and would be confused if I watched something of his that didn't have at LEAST one.  It's the behavior of the characters that is uncanny to me.

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Posted : 20/03/2018 7:15 pm
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Honestly.. when I was watching Season 3 the first go around, when we saw the headlights on the road and American Woman was playing all in slo-mo, I felt for SURE an absolute POSITIVE that we were going to have the car drive up and park in front of the cabin from Lost Highway.

The driving scenes reminded me so much of LH, so I'd almost have to attribute those to being Lynch's style.

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Posted : 29/03/2018 11:08 am
(@b-randy)
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Posted by: Brian Hardin II

Honestly.. when I was watching Season 3 the first go around, when we saw the headlights on the road and American Woman was playing all in slo-mo, I felt for SURE an absolute POSITIVE that we were going to have the car drive up and park in front of the cabin from Lost Highway.

The driving scenes reminded me so much of LH, so I'd almost have to attribute those to being Lynch's style.

I had almost the very same thought, a few times.

I think you can definitely (not almost) attribute it to being Lynch's style.  🙂

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Posted : 29/03/2018 2:21 pm
(@caemeron)
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Beyond that, I see him sort of paying homage to himself throughout the Return (as well as to any number of other directors and artists): the dark road shots clearly recall Lost Highway, the Naido scene in Part 3 put me in mind of Eraserhead, the panning hallway shot to Stephen and Gersten is reminiscent of Inland Empire, the face on the bear that says, "Hello Johnny" calls out Dumbland... Any others come to mind for people? I have this feeling like we should be able to find a reference/allusion to each of his films. It really gives the sense of this being a masterwork. 

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Posted : 29/03/2018 4:10 pm
(@pred80r)
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Posted by: Cæmeron Crain

Beyond that, I see him sort of paying homage to himself throughout the Return (as well as to any number of other directors and artists): the dark road shots clearly recall Lost Highway, the Naido scene in Part 3 put me in mind of Eraserhead, the panning hallway shot to Stephen and Gersten is reminiscent of Inland Empire, the face on the bear that says, "Hello Johnny" calls out Dumbland... Any others come to mind for people? I have this feeling like we should be able to find a reference/allusion to each of his films. It really gives the sense of this being a masterwork. 

I want so badly for this to be a "masterwork" and I have come to some conclusions based on realizations that were uncovered here.  The approach that ALL of Season 1, Season 2 and the return are now considered to be filmed with the fact that reality is skewed due to Coopers screwing with time...all of that is pure GENIUS with a capital G.  Of course I am not so convinced that Lynch/Frost filmed it this way or even considered it like this...it may have fallen into their lap.

But there are pieces that are completely counterintuitive in their approach (2d effects. loose ends etc) to being a masterpiece.  Who knows though, I keep accepting more through time...

Jack 

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Posted : 29/03/2018 4:51 pm
  
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