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(@jocelyn)
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We aren't watching Sunset Boulevard. What will happen will happen, but I would be surprised if the Audrey story was just there to reference another classic.

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 10:05 pm
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I originally thought we wouldn't see Audrey again, but now I've changed my mind.  My reasons are: 1) She appears to wake up at the end of the episode just like Cooper did.  I think we'll get her story in this next episode.  2) I think there is a parallel between Audrey and Diane involving the rape by Mister C.  She will be saved from wherever she is - perhaps by Cooper along with the original Diane and maybe Laura.  Cooper is going to take care of business!

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 10:09 pm
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Posted by: Jocelyn Rowe

We aren't watching Sunset Boulevard. What will happen will happen, but I would be surprised if the Audrey story was just there to reference another classic.

Lynch has referenced a lot of movies in this season of Twin Peaks.  If you know anything about Sunset Boulevard and the character Norma Desmond (Not to mention that it is one of Lynch's all-time favorite films), you would know that Lynch is telling us something about Audrey's state of mind and life by these clues with Sunset Bouldvard.  It's right there in front of you.  I'm not saying at all that Audrey's scenes are just to reference this movie... geesh.

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 10:44 pm
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100 %

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 11:45 pm
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Wow :). Great stuff

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 11:50 pm
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Posted by: Mike Harris
Posted by: Jocelyn Rowe

We aren't watching Sunset Boulevard. What will happen will happen, but I would be surprised if the Audrey story was just there to reference another classic.

Lynch has referenced a lot of movies in this season of Twin Peaks.  If you know anything about Sunset Boulevard and the character Norma Desmond (Not to mention that it is one of Lynch's all-time favorite films), you would know that Lynch is telling us something about Audrey's state of mind and life by these clues with Sunset Bouldvard.  It's right there in front of you.  I'm not saying at all that Audrey's scenes are just to reference this movie... geesh.

Did not mean to imply that you were saying that her scenes are only to reference another movie. Yes I have seen Sunset and understand the parallels and obvious clues.  But I will be disappointed if Audrey is only in the series so that we can see her state of mind, without any significant plot connection. A big mystery was created around her character that inspired 100s of posts and many topic threads since she appeared in Part 12. Was it all just to show that Audrey's fate has been an unhappy one? 

That having been said, you may be correct and we will not see her again. ?

 
Posted : 03/09/2017 5:59 am
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Hello, I'm coming 10 days too late =)

I agree with the option that Audrey is in the white lodge,  the Audrey we see is a Tulpa and she started to emerge because of the dance&twin peaks town. I don't think she was in the coma since she raised richard. To me it's always the same routine : when Bob rape a women he wants her to become his tulpa. Remember in season 2 Leland explained that Bob&the people from the lodge really wanted Laura but that she was too strong for them. she always resisted and struggled inside herself. She wasn't feeling good but she never became a real tulpa contrary to Diane and Audrey that were somehow weaker than Laura.. Maybe because they both loved Dale and it's been said in season 2 that Bob feeds himself with love & fear & intense emotions.

I think Laura and Dale were Bob favorite souls and bodies, both clever and strong. In season 3 "Tulpa Dale" died twice!! Bob could have use another body-ship as with leland but "the black shadows" kept saving "tulpa-dale" cause he was the steamroller-tulpa. Still it would have been amazing to have a Bob-Laura-Badass ! That one would have win I'm pretty sure 🙂 Sorry for my english BTW.

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 11:45 am
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Maybe Cooper saved both Laura and Audrey and maybe Audrey was Judy.

 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:20 am
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In the scene just before we see Audrey in the white room. After the fight breaks out and Audrey approaches Charlie to plead with him to get her out of there. As she approaches him we see him from her perspective, approaching, approaching... then, suddenly, the pov switches to Charlies point of view. We actually see Audrey through his eye's. He's staring at her face intently and close up. Then, suddenly again, the scene switches to Audrey in the white room, but the pov does not change. We are still staring intently, close up, on Audrey's face. But now it's in the mirror and we are looking through Audrey's eyes, not Charlie's. Is Charlie really Audrey?

While I'm here. This is what I see in that very last scene. Audrey, no makeup, looking at herself in a silver, round mirror. She's in a completely white room. Absolutely nothing in the background. We can just barely see what she's wearing. To me, it looks like white scrubs, which would strongly suggest she's in a hospital or institute, or... Mother Ship!

This makes me wonder about that scene in the previous episode when those girls are talking at the Road House and the one girl says to the other "stay away from that nuthouse".  

Oh, and of course there's the electricity sounds too.

Finally, there are a lot of similarities in the way she is breaking down and the way Diane did. There are also a lot of differences so her situation is definitely not the same.

 
Posted : 14/09/2017 2:58 pm
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You pretty much have to stick a fork in every damn power outlet in Twin Peaks.

 
Posted : 15/09/2017 12:53 am
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That makes sense, I had this interpretation, sort of along the lines of yours: 

 

Roadhouse Audrey is a tulpa, created by Mr. C the same way he created Diane’s tulpa, after raping them. And, just like the real Diane, Mr. C takes Audrey into the Dutchman’s and blinds her. Audrey’s tulpa has the same foul-mouthed speaking Diane’s tulpa has, and seems as confused about her existence as Diane’s tulpa during her “I’m not me” bit.

The fistfight scene at the roadhouse, after Audrey’s dance, is an echo of the fight going on at the sheriff station between Freddy and BOB, BOB is beaten and Naido is rid of her eye covering skin revealing the real Diane.

Same thing with Audrey, BOB is beaten so the real Audrey awakes. David Lynch shows us Audrey looking at her reflection just as a way of transmitting the idea that Audrey can now, and finally after a long time, see. Where she is at (white background) remains unexplained because that and what happens next doesn’t really matter, probably a slow return to her normal life.

 
Posted : 15/09/2017 11:10 am
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Oh I like that, waking up just after BOB is destroyed same as Diane.

One more thing. It's been mentioned in other posts about the decor of Charlies house being old, like idk maybe anywhere from 1940's to late 70's , maybe early 80's, but my point is that he was using a rotary phone. Rotary phones don't work on the modern digital phone network. At least not without hooking up some adapters. I'm not sure of the exact date of which you could no long use one. I want to say early 80's at the most because I think I remember my grandparents still having one hooked upstairs in a bedroom. So Charlie and Audrey are definitely not in the present. I think when Audrey wakes up, she's in the present. There were other scenes in the series where other character used a rotary phone too, but those scenes are escaping my memory at the moment.

 
Posted : 15/09/2017 11:40 am
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Posted by: buttercup

I originally thought we wouldn't see Audrey again, but now I've changed my mind.  My reasons are: 1) She appears to wake up at the end of the episode just like Cooper did.  I think we'll get her story in this next episode.  2) I think there is a parallel between Audrey and Diane involving the rape by Mister C.  She will be saved from wherever she is - perhaps by Cooper along with the original Diane and maybe Laura.  Cooper is going to take care of business!

Audrey appears to wake up, but does she really wake up or just enter another level of dreaming?

 
Posted : 23/09/2017 12:50 am
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Posted by: Richard Danks
 

Audrey appears to wake up, but does she really wake up or just enter another level of dreaming?

Unless there's S4, I guess we'll never know, I'm afraid 🙁 🙁

 
Posted : 27/09/2017 9:37 pm
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