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(@lang_)
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dude, don`t confuse some (nice) tv-plot for reality.

thx.

 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 10:03 pm
(@chris_gorgon)
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Right, it's a forum to discuss a particular fictional television show and not your own private reality that has no resemblance to or influence on others' realities. 

 

 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 10:04 pm
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Posted by: Lang Steven

dude, don`t confuse some (nice) tv-plot for reality.

thx.

 

Hmm, I'm hungry...I should look in the fridge for The Leftovers. 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 10:05 pm
(@lang_)
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you talk too much...

edit-

i get it- this forum seems to be mostly frequented by kids...

well, THIS is NOT directed at kids at all...

let them enjoy their youth...

watch TP and think of how nice Mr Lynch put it all together.

this goes for the entire forum, at least those who i had the `privilege`to talk to...

/sarcasm off.

 

thanks @ admin for deleting this spiteful contra-thread-

oranje bovens.

 

 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 10:07 pm
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I'm going to be completely non-ironic.

I do think that the kinds of things you talk about happen to people. In my late teens and twenties, I was a poet and spent a lot of time in hyperfocus, I guess you'd call it. I recall things like seeing in such states such as a different ending to a film than I expected (before the era of alternate endings and director's cuts). I'm not really sure what it was, but it was weird. What you're describing sounds much more startling and ongoing over a period of time. 

These kinds of experiences faded as I grew older and had to "straighten myself out" for a place in the career world. As you probably know, people don't feel comfortable discussing it unless it's in some kind of framework that people accept, like mental illness (funny that people are comfortable pathologizing what they don't understand or have a context for), or drug use, or lucid dreaming. (Lucid dreaming is very popular with many people--check YouTube).

What is not going to attract people to talk to you about this is first, framing your remarks as something beyond their comprehension, and second, rejecting any frame of reference that doesn't match your own. 

But I don't reject the reality or importance of your experiences and wish you well.

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 10:37 pm
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i am with you on what you said.

But my comprehension of what i deem to be reality goes a bit further than some teenager-point of view...

 i am also beyond some childish debates as to convince some kids of my perspective.

i happen to be 37 years old, settled in every way imaginable, educated, but this thing struck me like a cannonball.

I don`t expect no understanding nor sympathy, but i call it like it is.

I am not from here.

And there`s millions more.

Deal with it.

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 12:39 am
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That's all lovely OP, but what's it got to do with EP15 specifically?

If you want to talk about this, can't you do so in the general forum? 

This is a Twin Peaks forum. Your discussion transcends a TV show. We're hear to talk about Twin Peaks (the clue is in the name of the website). 

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 1:51 am
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my OP was absolutely on topic, as stated there  i deem TP to be an allegory of the things unfolding before a couple million people all over the globe.

nice try tho.

 

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 1:58 am
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I understand that one can feel defensive about their beliefs -- I've had my own fair share of issues taking that kind of critique -- but I hope you'll find the love within you to stop responding to posts that are provoking you by comparing them to stuff you feel like you're beyond or above. You might not be from here, and you might understand something that we don't, but that doesn't change your value. You're as valuable as everyone else. I feel like comparing people to teenagers/kids/highschool drop-outs are an insult to teenagers, kids, and highschool-dropouts.

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 6:30 am
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I like how the one guy agreed with him, used his own experiences, and the other guy was like 'NAAAAAAH. I'm beyond that.'

Even when people are cool to him he's a dick. Now, explain, because you don't seem to be able to...how did you switch? You can't just jump between dimensions. Lord knows if you could I'd consider it.

We use the framework of mental illness because mental illness is a very real thing. It's worth getting checked out to see if your brain is breaking down or short-circuiting, or whether you're having memory issues, before going 'Well, I've jumped dimensions.'

Occam's Razor. Which is more likely? Either you've done something that borders on impossible, or you suffer from a dis associative condition.

Again, I'm not saying your story is impossible, just close to impossible, and I'm open minded enough not to completely disregard it.

But, you refuse to give any details. You say you can, but you won't. If this is such a potentially catastrophic event, should you not be working to find evidence to convince us, instead of being a dick and insulting people?

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 6:08 pm
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Posted by: Joshua Moulinie

I like how the one guy agreed with him, used his own experiences, and the other guy was like 'NAAAAAAH. I'm beyond that.'

Even when people are cool to him he's a dick. Now, explain, because you don't seem to be able to...how did you switch? You can't just jump between dimensions. Lord knows if you could I'd consider it.

We use the framework of mental illness because mental illness is a very real thing. It's worth getting checked out to see if your brain is breaking down or short-circuiting, or whether you're having memory issues, before going 'Well, I've jumped dimensions.'

Occam's Razor. Which is more likely? Either you've done something that borders on impossible, or you suffer from a dis associative condition.

Again, I'm not saying your story is impossible, just close to impossible, and I'm open minded enough not to completely disregard it.

But, you refuse to give any details. You say you can, but you won't. If this is such a potentially catastrophic event, should you not be working to find evidence to convince us, instead of being a dick and insulting people?

You may not be able to jump dimensions, but you are clearly able to jump from speaking about "him" to speaking to "you."  It's as if a second speaker took control midpost.  

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 10:23 pm
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I think it's an amazingly egotistical viewpoint, at least at first.  Ultimately it boils down to "everything that isn't how I think it should be is wrong or unnatural."  That simply isn't a mentally healthy place to be.  

And I'm sure it makes one feel powerful to hold the idea that they have secret knowledge of a cosmic nature that the rest of us are unaware of.  Yet to me it also betrays a feeling of powerlessness.  I believe I have a great deal of power over my reality...someone with this viewpoint obviously feels they're reality's plaything.  

 

TL;DR  Someone who really believes this almost certainly has a lot of stuff going on. 

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 11:24 pm
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I just want to apologise to the OP for not being as understanding as I could have been before. You're obviously going through something, one way or another, and I wish you peace.

I also apologise to the rest of the board for bringing it down into negativity.

Truth is that I was having a bad PTSD day, at the time, and precisely because of the fact that I have severe PTSD, I should have had more empathy, because sometimes I don't know when or where I am. Being disoriented about that sort of stuff sucks, for whatever reason.

I will say, in case anyone is concerned, that medication helps lessen my symptoms and the duration of my symptoms a great deal. I've also been through many years of therapy and have learned a great deal, mainly through books by experts on the subject (Bessel Van Der Kolk, for example) and by talking to other survivors.

I'm not suggesting that the OP has PTSD as well; just that as someone who gets disoriented about where and when I am, that I empathize.

We never know what someone may be going through, and I find it's best to err on the side of kindness, or at least not being unkind.

Best wishes to all of you.

 

 
Posted : 25/08/2017 6:30 am
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The first part of the comment addressed the rest of the people on this post, the second half addressed him directly.
I'm not really sure what your point is there.

 
Posted : 25/08/2017 9:11 am
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Posted by: Joshua Moulinie

The first part of the comment addressed the rest of the people on this post, the second half addressed him directly.
I'm not really sure what your point is there.

Just wanted to be sure there wasn't a Sarah Palmer sort of thing going on.  Something inside took over the conversation midway through, etc.  Seems like we're good. 

 
Posted : 25/08/2017 9:19 am
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