i remain confused about the audrey scenes. chuck is a real person after all, which means also tina and billy are (?).
I believe they are all real. What isn't clear is if, or how, Audrey is actually connected to them. Some think this is all Audrey's coma dreaming. I don't. I can't believe she's dreaming up all kinds of convoluted Roadhouse conversations that are creating a web of fantasy relationships.
It's all real. We just don't know just how all these people are connected exactly.
I believe they are all real. What isn't clear is if, or how, Audrey is actually connected to them. Some think this is all Audrey's coma dreaming. I don't. I can't believe she's dreaming up all kinds of convoluted Roadhouse conversations that are creating a web of fantasy relationships.
It's all real. We just don't know just how all these people are connected exactly.
I don't know.... as with so much of Lynch's "modus operandi" in almost everything he does, I believe the importance of scenes like this is to show us the state of someone's mind, not the plot details which mean nothing. (Just like in Mulholland Drive where so many scenes didn't really happen, but rather were shown to reveal to us the state of Betty's mind.)
I believe they are all real. What isn't clear is if, or how, Audrey is actually connected to them. Some think this is all Audrey's coma dreaming. I don't. I can't believe she's dreaming up all kinds of convoluted Roadhouse conversations that are creating a web of fantasy relationships.
It's all real. We just don't know just how all these people are connected exactly.
I don't know.... as with so much of Lynch's "modus operandi" in almost everything he does, I believe the importance of scenes like this is to show us the state of someone's mind, not the plot details which mean nothing. (Just like in Mulholland Drive where so many scenes didn't really happen, but rather were shown to reveal to us the state of Betty's mind.)
We will only know in the end (or maybe not!), but I am convinced that Audrey is awake because of what happened to Chuck. One may argue that Tina and Billy are figments of Audrey's imagination because they have not interacted with the other characters.
However, Chuck has, and I don't believe Audrey is talking about another Chuck since that would mean three of them in TP. Chuck was hit by Freddie. If Chuck isn't real, then James and Freddie and their being locked up isn't real either, and I find that hard to believe since Freddie seems destined to protect Naido.
It is supposed to be early October in Twin Peaks, correct ? Would people run their furnaces that early? I ask because it looked like Charlie and Audrey had their fireplace in full operation during that first scene in his study. I wonder if they are really in the Twin Peaks area. But Charlie did dial only 7 numbers on his old rotary phone, so they must be stateside.
Climate of the area. Look at original TP & new, daytime scenes people are wearing coats or sweaters.
And Charlie was clearly faking the phonecall...
Are you sure? I remember thinking that at the time and then on re-watching being reassured by the voices and dialling tones audible from the phone. Was a while ago though. I may have been more impressionable then ☺
He appeared to be barely putting up with the person on the line wanting to keep talking when he was trying to end the call.
I think the most interesting exchange between Audrey and Charlie was in Ep. 13 when Audrey says "What story is that, Charlie?" (it was the title of the episode, after all) and then she asks, "Is it the story of the little girl who lives down the lane?"
The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane is a book and a movie (starring Jodie Foster) which is summarized by Wikipedia: "It is about a 13-year-old girl named Rynn Jacobs who lives alone in a house, and murders people who threaten her solitary life."
This has GOT to have some importance to what has happened to Audrey, right?
From that movie we learned: if the cookies taste like bitter almonds, don't swallow.
After this episode, does anyone still not convinced that the entire Audrey/Charlie scene takes place in her comatose dream??
No reference at all to her family, esp. Richard. The fact that she seems only able to interact with Charlie in all her scenes (while keeps ranting and forgetting about herself) seem to prove that she hasn't really woken up yet.
Yeah, I've thought from the first Audrey scene, that it was not real. Based on what was said, how things were said, and the look of the scenes. Not sure if it means she is still in a coma or just inflicted with some severe mental problems but I do believe that her scenes are in her mind. As with most Lynch stuff, trying to figure out what is real and what isn't is the big question. ( I also think that many if not most of the Roadhouse scenes are not real as well)
Perhaps the Roadhouse is the "gen pop" section of the mental institution. Audrey could be in solitary confinement. She talks about going to the Roadhouse, but she looks for an excuse not to. She might recognize that she isn't ready to join the other patients yet.
I don't know.... as with so much of Lynch's "modus operandi" in almost everything he does, I believe the importance of scenes like this is to show us the state of someone's mind, not the plot details which mean nothing. (Just like in Mulholland Drive where so many scenes didn't really happen, but rather were shown to reveal to us the state of Betty's mind.)
That's my conclusion as well. Audrey could still be in a coma or be in a mental institution, or is contemplating to kill herself, we just don't know.
One thing for sure: The owls are not what they seem.
After this episode, does anyone still not convinced that the entire Audrey/Charlie scene takes place in her comatose dream??
No reference at all to her family, esp. Richard. The fact that she seems only able to interact with Charlie in all her scenes (while keeps ranting and forgetting about herself) seem to prove that she hasn't really woken up yet.
Yeah, I've thought from the first Audrey scene, that it was not real. Based on what was said, how things were said, and the look of the scenes. Not sure if it means she is still in a coma or just inflicted with some severe mental problems but I do believe that her scenes are in her mind. As with most Lynch stuff, trying to figure out what is real and what isn't is the big question. ( I also think that many if not most of the Roadhouse scenes are not real as well)
Perhaps the Roadhouse is the "gen pop" section of the mental institution. Audrey could be in solitary confinement. She talks about going to the Roadhouse, but she looks for an excuse not to. She might recognize that she isn't ready to join the other patients yet.
"Other patients." Yes. It has occurred to me that Audrey may be in some kind of group home setting, and that she knows these other people as patients. They may have been there in the past but have left. There are hints of this --Chuck is certifiable. Megan and Sophie speak of nearby nuthouse. Charley says he is concerned about Billy too--why would he care about a man his wife Audrey claims to be screwing, unless he had some other connection to Billy? Charley may be her husband, but he could also be a doctor or administrator of some kind of mental health agency.
Just a theory. But not too far fetched, as so many people in Twin Peaks look like they have lost it.
I believe it's a dream because it feels like a dream. One can have a mixture of both real and imagined people in one's dreams doing both real and imagined things. She doesn't need to be in a coma to be dreaming. Everyone dreams. It might not even be HER dream. Someone else could be dreaming ABOUT Audrey for all we know. It really feels dreamlike to me, though.
I believe it's a dream because it feels like a dream. One can have a mixture of both real and imagined people in one's dreams doing both real and imagined things. She doesn't need to be in a coma to be dreaming. Everyone dreams. It might not even be HER dream. Someone else could be dreaming ABOUT Audrey for all we know. It really feels dreamlike to me, though.
This. perfect example of a Tulpa
When I watch all this short bits of Audrey's plot in TP 2017, I have the strange feeling that this Audrey-Charlie story was written after the 2014-2015 Lynch-Frost works.
It looks like a wrong spare part on a brand new car...
I hope that this plot 'll be connected to the "big story" in the last 3 episodes.
I think all this might be metaphorically true (re: the roadhouse) if not literally true.
Audrey, on the other hand. She is in Another Place. And I DO think we will learn more, though it may not be tidy. She IS connected to the Big Story, through Mr. C and Richard, who are currently driving through the night, warmly engaging their familial bond.
i think you're right. Audrey is in a coma. The external reality comes into her consciousness in the way we see it on the screen. For example, all her soap opera dialogues with Charlie, there might be someone in the room where Audrey is, who regularly watches a soap opera. Or, for example, the story with Tina and Billy, Tina may be the nurse who takes care of Audrey, and she tells the story that happened to her with Billy, and it goes into Audrey's consciousness, as if she were part of the story between Tina and Billy. The idea that Audrey wants to get out of the house and she can not do it, is actually, Audrey can not wake up from a coma. Maybe Audrey is the "dreamer" Monika Bellucci talked about
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