Gender is an oppressive social construct, not a state of mind. I've never heard of anyone stating that they 'feel' like a certain gender without basing it on patriarchal stereotypes.
Turned on CC for second watch -
She said "This isn't Ghostwood"
Also she said which story is that the little girl who lived down the lane
Looking for references
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Girl_Who_Lives_Down_the_Lane
I know the phrase the little boy who lives down the lane from the nursery rhyme but wondering if Lynch was referencing this.
I have so many conflicting thoughts after this scene. On the one hand I like the therapy idea even more. She seems scared, she's aware she's not the person she used to be (and we used to know) and there's something about the ghostwood project that seems to have left some scar on her (well, other than the explosion), as she mumbles something like "it seems to be back in Ghostwood" or similar. And Charlie has shifted gears, he was basically a punching bag last week, now after he has given his client the chance to lash out against him and to vent her frustrations he's grabbed the wheel and is the one in charge. He makes Audrey face her insecurity about going or not to the Roadhouse. He does look a lot like an analyst.
Yet, another way I looked at the Audrey-Charlie scene last week was as two individuals with common economic interests who married because of that and are running some shady businesses. Now, last week it seemed to me as Audrey was running the show, a Catherine Martell 2.0 if you will, and Charlie, while not completely unaware of what was going on (like Pete Martell was in the original show), following what she says. But this week Charlie seems to be in charge, he even seems to threaten Audrey when he's talking about ending her story and there's a reference to another possible story, that Charlie might have ended and that might have be pertaining to some kind of illegal business he was/they were pursuing (much like all those intrigues involving either Catherine, Josie, Hank, Andrew Packard, Ben or Thomas Eckhardt in the original show).
My apologies she says "Its like Ghostwood here"
The Audrey/Charlie scenes remind of another film and filmmaker that has to be part of Lynch's cinematic frame of reference - Celine and Julie Go Boating (Rivette 1974). Wonderful companion piece.
I thought Audrey more threatening than Charlie. "What story is that Charlie? Is that the story of the little girl who lived down the lane?". I've read the book and seen the movie! From the movie poster.....
She was only a little girl who lived in a great big house.....all alone. Where is her mother? Where is her father? Where are all the people who went to visit her? What is her unspeakable secret? Everyone who knows is dead.
And then there's the poison in the coffee...
I wasn't sure about that coma theory before but I feel like this scene was very suggestive of that. And the reference to a story where the main questions are "Where is her mother? Where is her father?" are so significant. All along we've been asking why no one mentions Audrey, we've seen her whole family and the only person who has brought her up is the doctor who treated her while she was in a coma.
All her dialogue now feels like the frightened frustration you feel when you are lost in a dream. You know things but you don't know things, you can't remember how to get places you know well. She's scared but she despises the man she's asking to protect her (who she knows can't protect her.) None of the things in the house are contemporary. She really does seem frozen in a place she can't leave, like a ghost.
If Audrey is dying in this season I am going to be a sad panda. But I thought she did a great job in this scene, her performance was very affecting.
I think the line about Ghostwood has to be important but I'm having trouble breaking down that parallel. There was always a plan to develop Ghostwood in the original series, and then there was the plan to preserve Ghostwood... Is Ghostwood where Glastonbury Grove is?
Gender is an oppressive social construct, not a state of mind. I've never heard of anyone stating that they 'feel' like a certain gender without basing it on patriarchal stereotypes.
Stereotypes and rigid gender-roles are oppressive. How someone feels about themself is not. Being a transgender person I know the subject very well.
My first post, having visited for a while.
My volume wasn't up so loud, but am I the only one who thought he said "Or do I have to endure story two" instead of "end your story too".
All the recaps I found said the latter...to me, having heard it as the former I thought it meant this was a conversation that repeats itself over and over. Maybe there's another story she has...the little girl down the lane or something. She seemed to realize that this is the situation and didn't handle it so well.
I dunno, just thought I'd share it since that's how I heard it - I may have got it wrong.
"I think the line about Ghostwood has to be important but I'm having trouble breaking down that parallel. There was always a plan to develop Ghostwood in the original series, and then there was the plan to preserve Ghostwood... Is Ghostwood where Glastonbury Grove is?"
Yes, though as far as we know she knows nothing about the Black Lodge.
Ben made a business deal with the people from Iceland for a development ( housing? ) there, but then Catherine tricked him into signing the property to her while he was in jail. Ben then came up with the idea of getting public opinion to be against development. Since then, Catherine may have sold her ownership of it for profit and left town. Or she may have passed on at some point after Pete did ( we know nothing about her in the new show & she is not in the story ). Audrey was doing civil disobedience at the bank when the bomb left in the safe deposit box by Eckhardt went off.
Audrey was caught in a repetitive loop of her defeat(like Sarah watching the boxer get knocked down over and over), and revenge against husband, going to bars, finding Billy, harming herself more and more with no progress, drinking, promiscuity as the golden shovel leads you back to the shit(Sarah palmer trapped in the house, like Audrey trapped in her direct loop, lost deep in the woods etc.) Charlie is trying to make her confront this problem inside of herself, he stops talking and makes her look at herself(like Dougie and Sinclair), then he tells her that she should go to the bar so that her first reaction will be to disobey, thus making her confront what she really wants other than going to the bar and getting revenge on the man who harmed her(Mr. C or Wheeler). She then asks Charlie for help, but he refuses this, refuses to be a savior, good move, since it will not help her, but just be a 'golden shovel', a 'billy' that is only temporary and the problem grows. Audrey then feels like she is lost deep in the woods/ghostwood, then remembers 'her' story, 'the little girl down the lane', the same Audrey from the original series that was special for Agent Cooper, smart, etc. So she is coming back to her desire(shown by James here, the persistence of desire, etc.) after being harmed by a Mr. C-like person, but will she take the ring, think that things are just bad now, that she will have to give up her dream by compromising to fit with Mr. C-Wheeler. The world is providing her the same destructive loop that Mr. C-Wheeler initiated in her, after 'killing' her desire and making her wear the ring(like Ray), ending her story that she is now remembering, so are there stars, these stars, is this nature/green/formica table etc., or are there 'no stars'(Charlie's silence) and the space to go back to 'her story', regardless of the impositions of an unjust world?
Mr. C is just like the 'money man' Walter here, telling Norma to 'compromise her pies'(her love and care that makes them 'extra special', what is special in Norma etc.), and Norma betrays her love Big Ed for this guy easily, just like she did for Hank prior, and just like Shelly did against Bobby for Red, the drug dealing big money man, why? Norma, Shelly, 'lost their story', their true desire/love, etc., by some man that hurt them(like Sarah Palmer on repeat reliving the defeat, getting hit down in a boxing match), like a Mr. C that came in and destroyed their life(Diane); but yet they still are driven to love/desire(James' song), but now they are being told to 'take the ring' by the same types that harmed them(just like Mike gave the ring to Laura) by people like Red and Walter....forget about love/desire, compromise it, this is just the way the world is, corrupted, rotten, always going to be like this, you can just defend yourself some, try to be shallow, cheap, and cruel like us, this is nature/the state of things, tyranny, forget justice, true love, dont be 'true to yourself and your pies', just enjoy this money, take the gold shovel, gamble some, do what you can, if you end up in rancho rosa/shit again, well thats how it is, too bad, etc., while money/enjoyment gets funneled to Walter, Mullins, Mitchums, Mr. C, etc. Yet there are 'no stars', this is not just 'how it is', can break out of this just like Mr. C or Richard, painful to face it(as Audrey is seeing), but can remember that story and stand for it(for Audrey, of the 'girl down the lane', what she was in the first series before Wheller or Mr. C 'broke her'), rather than 'taking the ring', accepting the tyranny of some 'money men' as 'just how it is'. Bobby and Ed were trying to get back to breaking out of the tyranny(Bobby 'finding the major', Ed going back with his true love Norma), but after seeing the reign of 'money men' over Norma, Ed is trying to hide his desire burning his 'coordinates to Jack rabbits palace'(place of dreams, how a man should be, etc.) his desire because of how the world is. James here doesnt seem to go through the 'no stars' so that he can assert it properly(like Audrey was doing with Charlie), but just giving a gloss that everything is alright 'the way it is' and seeking desire there where it has no place in the 'way things are'(Audrey going to the bar), we will see what happens when he hits the 'money men', seems as if James 'took the ring', just a Dougie....with no Mr. C in him..... or did his 'being quiet' give him that time to really see the 'no stars' or 'being lost in ghostwood'..
I think there could be something really interesting to the idea that she's in a coma. Going to the Road House might be waking up - which is why she needs help to do it, isn't sure exactly how to. Would be interesting if she wakes up in the hospital with Miriam in the next room and she finds out about Richard!
Perhaps there's also commentary here related to gender and aging. For whatever reason, men are 'allowed' to age in society without judgement, while women(especially actors) can be judged more harshly after their youthful looks fade. And it's a fact that people have commented negatively on Sherilyn Fenn's looks at her age.
But she can't be who she was in 1990, no matter how safe it might feel to mentally stay in that space.
You mean sex, gender is a state of mind. Most if not all of those comments on her looks are from young people ( mostly male ) who don't know what feels like to age, and also mature in your thoughts ( rather than getting stuck like a certain orange man in an oval room ).
Sex is a state of mind too, comrade.
And not to take us too far down THAT not-specifically TP-related rabbit whole, I speak from a lens of transness myself as well...
Turned on CC for second watch -
She said "This isn't Ghostwood"Also she said which story is that the little girl who lived down the lane
Looking for referenceshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Girl_Who_Lives_Down_the_Lane
I know the phrase the little boy who lives down the lane from the nursery rhyme but wondering if Lynch was referencing this.
I immediately thought of that film when Audrey made the comment. It's a film which stuck in my mind for decades and I've been a thorough Jodie Foster fan ever since.
I think quite a few of the themes and aspects of the film are relevant to Twin Peaks, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were a deliberate reference.
I'm pretty convinced everything in this episode happened earlier; meaning that Audrey's conversation with Charlie that we saw in "13" actually precedes what we saw in "12". It would make sense since they both seemed even more exasperated with each other in "12" than they did in "13". I mean sure, there was tension last night, and a vague threat to "end your story", but compared to the verbal assaults Audrey unleashed at Charlie in the other conversation, essentially calling him less than a man, this was nothing.
There does seem to be a "shutter island" feel to all of this. Like walking you through the motions will maybe help you remember what really happened, who you really are, and where you really are. We can only imagine he's gotten his little coat and accompanied her to the Roadhouse 5,000x "looking for Billy".
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