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Eric from Sweden
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I still wonder why Major Briggs wanted those coordinates. Especially if it leeds back to Twin Peaks. I always had a feeling that Major Briggs knew more about what was going on than anyone.

https://youtu.be/NpYEJx7PkWE

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Posted : 31/07/2017 9:40 pm
Dweller

According to TSHOTP Briggs wanted Coop to take over his work. He met with Coop after Coop returned from the Lodge, but soon found out that something was wrong. Preparations had to be made.

What we know is that his base camp burned down shortly thereafter and that Briggs went missing. Who burned it down is unclear. 

It is possible that Mr. C did this, but probably Briggs did it himself to prevent it falling in the wrong hands and as a cover up for himself going underground. Of course the fact that his body didn't age suggests that he wasn't part of our world anymore after the fire.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 2:07 am
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Posted by: budkin

Albert started to say "...in the north[west]" but he was cut off and you never heard the "west" part.

Watched this again last night and I think the exact words he used were "point to a small town in the north of ..." Made we wonder at the time: given he was just talking to Diane and Gordon, if he meant Twin Peaks, why wouldn't he just say so? 

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Posted : 01/08/2017 4:00 am
Randy Bowser
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I assumed she had already punched in the string of coordinates before the scene started, and we just saw her picking up the phone to type in the last part to identify to the search engine what kind of numbers they were.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 10:10 am
Dweller

If I hear correctly, with every syllable she enters three characters.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 11:41 am Randy Bowser and James M Sweeney liked
Lodger

Did you all notice that she's wearing the same green collared shirt when she enters the coordinates in the bar during this episode as when she read them in the previous episode? But she's wearing a different shirt (the red sleeveless v-neck, which she also wore on their trip to see Mr. C in prison) when she meets w/ Gordon, Albert and Tammy and replies to the "Las Vegas?" text message in the same bar.

This would seem to support the notion that The Return is not presenting events in an entirely linear way ("Is it future or is it past?"), but to what extent is still a big mystery. Always possible that she went to her room between bar scenes to change back into the shirt she was wearing the day before, but that seems doubtful to me.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 12:02 pm Bela Moschkovich and Paudris Log liked
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Posted by: Steven Fligelstone
Posted by: budkin

Albert started to say "...in the north[west]" but he was cut off and you never heard the "west" part.

Watched this again last night and I think the exact words he used were "point to a small town in the north of ..." Made we wonder at the time: given he was just talking to Diane and Gordon, if he meant Twin Peaks, why wouldn't he just say so? 

Great question. Been wondering about that, too.

 

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Posted : 01/08/2017 12:05 pm Steven Fligelstone liked
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Yes, there's some speculation that the deputizing scene actually took place before the visit to the site. Or at least was filmed that way and then inserted here.

I'm not sure how much it matters, really.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 12:09 pm Paudris Log liked
Lodger

Thanks for alerting me to that, and sorry to have missed it elsewhere. Interesting idea. Though somebody else pointed out that it looks like she's wearing different pants in the two coordinates scenes I mentioned above -- red pants when she reads them over Gordon's shoulder in Part 11, and black in Part 12 when she enters them into her phone at the bar (which is closed, so in that regard it would make sense if she were doing this after Gordon and Albert's brief meeting at 11:05). Could be proceeding in a perfectly linear fashion, and she just made a late-night selection from her limited travel wardrobe.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 1:09 pm
Lodger
Posted by: Steven Fligelstone
Posted by: budkin

Albert started to say "...in the north[west]" but he was cut off and you never heard the "west" part.

Watched this again last night and I think the exact words he used were "point to a small town in the north of ..." Made we wonder at the time: given he was just talking to Diane and Gordon, if he meant Twin Peaks, why wouldn't he just say so? 

This bothered the hell out of me.  I also immediately figured he meant the town of Twin Peaks, but then decided that he must not have meant that since he didn't just come right out and say it.  Anyway, given that both Gordon and Albert know that Cooper was last seen in Twin Peaks before he went off the grid for 25 years, you'd think that any mention of the town would set off all sorts of alarm bells in both of them.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 7:12 pm Steven Fligelstone liked
Randy Bowser
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Posted by: Maurice Dumont

If I hear correctly, with every syllable she enters three characters.

I think you're right. My earlier reply wasn't correct - I watched the episode again, and there isn't a place in the scene when she could have already entered numbers. We assumed she was typing the word Coordinates, but she must have been typing numbers while saying out loud what the numbers signified.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 8:37 pm
Town Visitor

Watched this again last night and I think the exact words he used were "point to a small town in the north of ..." Made we wonder at the time: given he was just talking to Diane and Gordon, if he meant Twin Peaks, why wouldn't he just say so? 

This bothered the hell out of me.  I also immediately figured he meant the town of Twin Peaks, but then decided that he must not have meant that since he didn't just come right out and say it.  Anyway, given that both Gordon and Albert know that Cooper was last seen in Twin Peaks before he went off the grid for 25 years, you'd think that any mention of the town would set off all sorts of alarm bells in both of them.

For sure, something doesn't add up. There are various indications that Albert and Gordon are 'onto' Diane in some way - maybe they don't assume she knows about Twin Peaks, hard though that may be fathom. When she entered the co-ordinates and zoomed in on Twin Peaks, I am not sure that her reaction implied recognition. Maybe the problem with Diane - this Diane - is not merely a question of loyalties.

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Posted : 01/08/2017 8:57 pm
Lodger

Does anybody have a screen grab that shows the coordinates?

 

Thanks

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Posted : 02/09/2017 11:41 pm
Lodger
Posted by: Eric Gelsinger

Does anybody have a screen grab that shows the coordinates?

 

Thanks

nevermind --they are

 

48°55'14.2"N 117°39'5.6"W

 

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Posted : 02/09/2017 11:43 pm Randy Bowser liked
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